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Whose Xmas is it ruining? Those on social media who want to lock everyone down?

Boo hoo
Loads of these people going out will still live at home with their parents. So it could ruin their family’s Christmas.
I don’t want to stop them doing it. I just think they’re either thick or selfish going out if they are planning to spend Christmas with their loved ones.
 
Trust me, it’s possible to have done everything that’s been asked of you so far, be triple jabbed but be at the end of your tether with government/SAGE and what I now feel are the lies and manipulation of the public by them.

Im no denier or antivaxxer, I’ve just had enough.

Yeah - a few years ago I had a shit Ford C-Max on a lease that I had enough of because it was bobbins however it was leased via my then employer so I couldn't get rid but what I could do was suck it up follow the rules and live with it in a mature adult kind of way
 
never queued for any of them yet - all 3 very slick in and out - no bother - booked online and less of a faff on than ordering some new wheel trims for the wife's car on Amazon tonight - two of the originals popped off in a week and as they were held on with wire ties I suspect foul play
jabbed on demand. You're still none the Pfizer nonetheless.
 
Yeah - a few years ago I had a shit Ford C-Max on a lease that I had enough of because it was bobbins however it was leased via my then employer so I couldn't get rid but what I could do was suck it up follow the rules and live with it in a mature adult kind of way

Which I always will. My issue with your post was the lazy stereotyping of anyone disagreeing being a denier.

I am not and I would guess millions like me are not either.
 
As illustrated by the tweet above, the “big problem” is one of the scenarios they model. Are you suggesting that if we get more restrictions, then it is as a result of a miscommunication between the government and SAGE?

I still think the most likely explanation is that the government are worried about the breakdown of the NHS. The Dutch government clearly are.
well the Dutch enjoy the Michael Masi approach to the rulebook, change them and apply them as they fancy with no regard to how they are actually democratically meant to be applied.
 
Loads of these people going out will still live at home with their parents. So it could ruin their family’s Christmas.
I don’t want to stop them doing it. I just think they’re either thick or selfish going out if they are planning to spend Christmas with their loved ones.

errr - don't want to piss on your chips mate but the people you describe - even if they feel unwell - ain't gonna take a test - ain't gonna isolate and ain't gonna change their plans - they will blag it around a dinner table on Christmas Day with up to 20 other people believe me
 
errr - don't want to piss on your chips mate but the people you describe - even if they feel unwell - ain't gonna take a test - ain't gonna isolate and ain't gonna change their plans - they will blag it around a dinner table on Christmas Day with up to 20 other people believe me
True. It’s madness. Very selfish behaviour.
 
well the Dutch enjoy the Michael Masi approach to the rulebook, change them and apply them as they fancy with no regard to how they are actually democratically meant to be applied.
I’m no expert on Dutch politics, but like I’ve said for our government, I can’t see any reason why ANY government would want to piss off their population for no reason other than because they can.

The less people do to help the situation, the more restrictions the government are forced to apply. It’s a simple equation.
 
There’s been 180k positive cases in the last 48 hrs. I wouldn’t risk catching covid and ruining Christmas (because I’d have to isolate and so family couldn’t come round) just for a night out! I think it’s mad.
There’ll be hundreds of thousands of people who have Covid but aren’t aware of it as vaccines/boosters/potential less severe makes it nothing more than a cold.

Do you think they’re going to sit at home for 10 days over Christmas.

People just won’t bother getting tested.
 
I’m no expert on Dutch politics, but like I’ve said for our government, I can’t see any reason why ANY government would want to piss off their population for no reason other than because they can.

The less people do to help the situation, the more restrictions the government are forced to apply. It’s a simple equation.
well, you can pull someone into a lifeboat to save them from drowning. Doesn't mean their mandatory rule that you have to jump out of the boat as well should be bowed too when it isn't necessary and isn't proportional to the scale of the problem.

Like has been said, Omicron isn't Ebola, no matter how much some people seem to want it to be so they can have the authoritarian rule they want.
 
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