Etihad Atmosphere - 2021/22

[jrb]

That's true but I thought their new ground was bloody noisy for our opening game this season. It was rocking.

Every away ground is rocking if their team is beating City. :-)

Southampton will be rocking this weekend if that is happening.

We’re the Champions, and the PL leaders.

 

[Tim of the Oak]

It’s Leeds fans first real season in the PL. Big games. Sold out every match. I remember watching Leeds when they were shit. They couldn’t fill Elland Road, and the atmosphere was shite. But they do have a proper end behind the goal. And the other stands join in the singing.

As for Wolves, they‘ve got two proper ends, one behind each goal, full of ordinary fans. There are no corporate areas, expensive seats, restaurants, bars, and executive boxes.

Leeds have got 2 ends. The Kop and the South Stand. The Kop holds more fans but the South Stand includes the recognised singing section. Both ends start songs.

The atmosphere tends to be decent for the first hour of games (nothing special) but gets ramped up when they start singing, their “Champions of Europe” chant. I’ve been to Elland Road 3 times this season and it’s been absolutely rocking for the last half hour on 2 of those occasions.

 

[Metalartin]

For years the Anfield atmosphere truly was a myth! But there was a bit of a storm amongst their own fans about it early in Klopp’s reign after some comments Klopp made (“I felt like I was on my own at the end” after loads of early leavers, and “it was very quiet today, we need the fans to get behind us more” after a draw they struggled in and the fans were shit), and there was that Liverpool fan on RedmenTV who was slating their fanbase… and they proper sorted themselves out.

I reckon that in the three years before Covid started, Anfield was the best in the country for regular good atmospheres (I’ve not really watched them much this season to say if thats carried on).

Even Pep mentioned how loud the atmosphere is at Anfield in a Catalan TV interview about 18 months ago.

I think it’s all too easy to say how much of a myth their atmosphere is just because that was the case for a few decades. But they were proactive in doing something about it. They get new songs on their fan channels, they have Saturday night events aimed at young adults in a live music club sort of venue where bands play Liverpool songs, and they have the advantage of a 12,500 Kop… their fans quickly pick up the lyrics to new songs.

We have nothing like that. You could tap someone on the shoulder in the East Stand, Colin Bell or Family Stand and ask him what the words are to “Empty Seats at home” or “Ruben Dias…” and I bet bloody loads wouldn’t be able to tell you.

Some fair points there. I remember Klopp complaining about the early leavers and that's why I think people have got the wrong end of the stick with some of Pep's comments. The difference is the media didn't try and twist Klopp's words because they aren't trying to push a narrative that Liverpool don't have any fans all the time.

If the Liverpool support did respond to criticism by becoming more organised and proactive, then they do deserve credit, as much as I hate to say it. It's quite surprising though, because nobody seems to take criticism worse than a Liverpool fan.

Maybe, the sense that they have to uphold the misguided belief that they have "the most passionate fans in the world" or "this means more, to us la", played a part in how they reacted.

City fans generally aren't self important in that way IMO. They don't suddenly turn into superfans on CL nights because they know the Champions League cameras will be panning around the stadium.

City's fanbase is more:

"Don't tell me what to do... I'll leave even earlier next week just to spite you. It's my money and my time"... etc

or

"Wasting your time, nothing we do will make a blind bit of a difference to the atmosphere. It is what it is"

 

[Beaker]

Some fair points there. I remember Klopp complaining about the early leavers and that's why I think people have got the wrong end of the stick with some of Pep's comments. The difference is the media didn't try and twist Klopp's words because they aren't trying to push a narrative that Liverpool don't have any fans all the time.

If the Liverpool support did respond to criticism by becoming more organised and proactive, then they do deserve credit, as much as I hate to say it. It's quite surprising though, because nobody seems to take criticism worse than a Liverpool fan.

Maybe, the sense that they have to uphold the misguided belief that they have "the most passionate fans in the world" or "this means more, to us la", played a part in how they reacted.

City fans generally aren't self important in that way IMO. They don't suddenly turn into superfans on CL nights because they know the Champions League cameras will be panning around the stadium.

City's fanbase is more:

"Don't tell me what to do... I'll leave even earlier next week just to spite you. It's my money and my time"... etc

or

"Wasting your time, nothing we do will make a blind bit of a difference to the atmosphere. It is what it is"

The bottom paragraph hits the nail on the head.

 

[jrb]

Leeds have got 2 ends. The Kop and the South Stand. The Kop holds more fans but the South Stand includes the recognised singing section. Both ends start songs.

The atmosphere tends to be decent for the first hour of games (nothing special) but gets ramped up when they start singing, their “Champions of Europe” chant. I’ve been to Elland Road 3 times this season and it’s been absolutely rocking for the last half hour on 2 of those occasions.

Their South stand is no different to our South stand, then.

How about we compare their KOP and our North stand?(Family stand)

Bar we are Leeds, marching all together, we are the champions of, and waving scarfs around, what other chants do they have?

Leeds have always had decent support. I’ll admit that. They are a one club city, so everybody, young, middle aged, and old supports Leeds United. They also have a large support across Yorkshire. They will always have a young and vocal support. They are exactly like Newcastle United in that sense. But like plenty of new clubs and their fans to the PL, it’s a novelty at first, until they start getting beat, then the novelty of the PL begins to ware off. Leeds United are a PL club in size, history, and in name, and they deserve to stay in the PL if they can?

 

[Marvin]

We don't have to reserve this for Stoke do we?

 

[Tim of the Oak]

Their South stand is no different to our South stand, then.

How about we compare their KOP and our North stand?(Family stand)

Bar we are Leeds, marching all together, we are the champions of, and waving scarfs around, what other chants do they have?

Leeds have always had decent support. I’ll admit that. They are a one club city, so everybody, young, middle aged, and old supports Leeds United. They also have a large support across Yorkshire. They will always have a young and vocal support. They are exactly like Newcastle United in that sense. But like plenty of new clubs and their fans to the PL, it’s a novelty at first, until they start getting beat, then the novelty of the PL begins to ware off. Leeds United are a PL club in size, history, and in name, and they deserve to stay in the PL if they can?

I was just adding some info JRB. FWIW, the 3rd gane I’ve been to at Elland Road this season was a Sunday lunchtime game against Brentford and the atmosphere was poor and plenty of Leeds fans had left before the last minute equaliser.

I think it’s been pointed out that we struggle to get good new songs adopted around the ground. The more vocal fan bases seem to have overcome this. For example, a few years ago when Leeds were in the play off semi final against Derby, one of their fans made up a song, “Stop Crying Frank Lampard” (days before the 2nd leg). The song wad shared on social media and 30 odd thousand Leeds fans are singing it at the top of their voices at the match. We would still be suggesting tweaks to the wording.

The efforts of 1884 are great but we don’t have enough passionate fans who want to create a good atmosphere at home games. People on here were moaning about the Dzeko and Zaba songs being sung on Saturday but they include lines about us winning the League, when many of our fans are too hesitant / nervous so sing’ We’re gonna Win the League”

Each to their own and people make their own choices about whether to contribute to the atmosphere.

 

[Carter1990]

Considering were tearing the league up. Our atmosphere home and away this year has been shocking. We have become spoilt and our fan base has to be the oldest in the league. Apart from in the south stand and the singing stand everyone looks over 50

 

[Octavian]

 

[Tim of the Oak]

They could address their empty seats “problem” at the same time lol

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Their South stand is no different to our South stand, then.

How about we compare their KOP and our North stand?(Family stand)

Bar we are Leeds, marching all together, we are the champions of, and waving scarfs around, what other chants do they have?

Leeds have always had decent support. I’ll admit that. They are a one club city, so everybody, young, middle aged, and old supports Leeds United. They also have a large support across Yorkshire. They will always have a young and vocal support. They are exactly like Newcastle United in that sense. But like plenty of new clubs and their fans to the PL, it’s a novelty at first, until they start getting beat, then the novelty of the PL begins to ware off. Leeds United are a PL club in size, history, and in name, and they deserve to stay in the PL if they can?

Leeds sing songs about Leeds and barely any about their players. Their song list is quite small, but they do sing all game.

This is where it does my head in when our singing section sings songs the rest of the Etihad don’t even know, sing the classics and the atmosphere will be better. Watch the game back from Saturday… every time the classics were sung you can hear the whole ground join in; every time you hear Edin Džeko or Empty Seats at Home it sounds like a murmur in the corner.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

As I said, they’d made a collective effort to raise it a few years back and did very well, but I haven’t watched them much this season to see if it’s carried on… obviously it hasn’t. But they did have the best regular good atmospheres for a few years before Covid happened.

 

[M18CTID]

As I said, they’d made a collective effort to raise it a few years back and did very well, but I haven’t watched them much this season to see if it’s carried on… obviously it hasn’t. But they did have the best regular good atmospheres for a few years before Covid happened.

I'm not sure there's that much of a correlation between Klopp coming out with that criticism of Liverpool fans early in his reign and the uptick in atmosphere over the next few seasons. I'd wager that Liverpool improving on the pitch year on year, culminating in the title winning season, had as much to do with the improvement in atmosphere as anything else. Now that they've regressed a little, there's also been a drop-off in atmosphere which backs up what many say about English club atmospheres - a lot of it is governed by how well the team is playing at the time. I made reference to Huddersfield in an earlier post and how fantastic their fans were in their first PL season in 2017/18. That was the season we went there and won late on after going behind at half time, and our away support was a comfortable second best to their home support that day. The following season we went there and won when Huddersfield were rock bottom of the league, and their fans were markedly much quieter that day compared to the previous season, so much so that the City fans basically had the run of the stadium atmosphere-wise.

 

[Bill]

Considering were tearing the league up. Our atmosphere home and away this year has been shocking. We have become spoilt and our fan base has to be the oldest in the league. Apart from in the south stand and the singing stand everyone looks over 50

i'm 67 and up to recent years i would sing my heart out , home and away . so your theory is bollocks.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

Considering were tearing the league up. Our atmosphere home and away this year has been shocking. We have become spoilt and our fan base has to be the oldest in the league. Apart from in the south stand and the singing stand everyone looks over 50

I think our away atmosphere has been the best it’s been for about ten years, this season.

Spurs away aside, it was fantastic at Leicester and Villa especially but also Watford Chelsea Liverpool United…

 

[Oldham Exile]

Leeds sing songs about Leeds and barely any about their players. Their song list is quite small, but they do sing all game.

This is where it does my head in when our singing section sings songs the rest of the Etihad don’t even know, sing the classics and the atmosphere will be better. Watch the game back from Saturday… every time the classics were sung you can hear the whole ground join in; every time you hear Edin Džeko or Empty Seats at Home it sounds like a murmur in the corner.

I struggle to understand why the CITY fans at away matches are among the most vocal and passionate - and yet, at home............

I guess perhaps they are dispersed around the Etihad - but if the singing section was made up mainly of the fans that go to away games then surely the atmosphere would be better

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

Considering were tearing the league up. Our atmosphere home and away this year has been shocking. We have become spoilt and our fan base has to be the oldest in the league. Apart from in the south stand and the singing stand everyone looks over 50

2nd post and its about the atmosphere.

Smells fishy

 

[Groke]

Considering were tearing the league up. Our atmosphere home and away this year has been shocking. We have become spoilt and our fan base has to be the oldest in the league. Apart from in the south stand and the singing stand everyone looks over 50

ha ha - away it's as good as anyone

 

[trevorriley]

It would help the noise increase if in the SS there wasnt the tier 2 corporate seats, it splits up a connection between level one & two. Although the SS looks a great design, atmosphere wise it hasnt helped. Like JRB said with one end at leeds, gives more chance for songs to spread and 3000 sing rather than 500.

It is good that we sing about players, we sing more player songs and our own mocking than we do club anthems. I would prefer a mix, but you need the long standing club anthems so that fans know the words and can join in. Whilst the Diaz song is good, it mumbles a bit when sung at home, perhaps will pick up a bit further down the lines. It is a shame about the bernardo song, that picked up good pace but nobody knows what to sing at the end now.

as much as we are fed up of zabba song and edin song, they do pick up well and carry on. Shame that "sterling won the double" was only a one season song, that was very loud and easy to sing.

two of most memorable away games for me where the home ends have been good where Hull city a few seasons back and wolves before covid.

i think with us city fans we dont want an organised singing section, they dont want a drum but would bang on steel plates at the back of stands, if its nil nil and boring we go quiet, for long periods of the game the bar & a drink is more important. But when it gets rocking ( example leeds / leicester / PSG at home ) there are not many nosier places around and its better than an away day.

 

[Octavian]

Considering were tearing the league up. Our atmosphere home and away this year has been shocking. We have become spoilt and our fan base has to be the oldest in the league. Apart from in the south stand and the singing stand everyone looks over 50

Absolute rubbish about the away part. We’ve now got one of the best reputations away from home for our support. I’ve said this before on here but it’s now common that when we get emptihad jibes online it’s caveated with “yeah but to be fair their away fans are class”.

I’ve seen Newcastle, Brighton, West Ham, Spurs all say we had the best away following at theirs this season.