Russian invasion of Ukraine

[RandomJ]

Be careful what videos you watch about this. I ended up seeing one of a blown up Russian tank with a dead Russian soldier lying next to it so there's some grim stuff out there at the moment.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

Installing Trump to power in the US was all part of the master plan and couldn't have worked out any better for Putin. Played the long game to a tee.

 

[domalino]

The Congo

Doesn't exist?

There's The Democratic Republic of Congo, or The Republic of Congo, two different countries.

Which is why things like The Ukraine/Ukraine matter...

 

[urban genie]

Meanwhile, guess who said this just the other day?

"The US has decided that it is necessary to send US and other Nato troops to Russia’s borders.

"As I have said elsewhere, this alone should tell us that the claims that Russia is the aggressor here should be treated very sceptically.

"The destabilisation of the entire region comes from the continued eastward expansion of Nato.

Does it really matter if peole got it wrong last week, we are all unified at this point that Putin is a **** and Ukraine is being fucked over all round.

 

[domalino]

Looks like he stuck the landing.

 

[Bazzmand Show]

Be careful what videos you watch about this. I ended up seeing one of a blown up Russian tank with a dead Russian soldier lying next to it so there's some grim stuff out there at the moment.

Agreed

 

[mexico1970]

Doesn't exist?

There's The Democratic Republic of Congo, or The Republic of Congo, two different countries.

Which is why things like The Ukraine/Ukraine matter...

So they both have "The" before them? I never said it doesn't matter I said that it wasn't unusual.

Fancy a holiday in the Sudan after this shenanigans to refuel the old batteries.

 

[west didsblue]

And lets them hear

Not so sure about that. Like @domalino has said, they have the internet however I suspect a large proportion of the population are conditioned to assume news from outside Russia is western propaganda in much the same way that Fox News is the only news channel that nearly half of Americans have been conditioned to believe.

 

[Scottyboi]

Be careful what videos you watch about this. I ended up seeing one of a blown up Russian tank with a dead Russian soldier lying next to it so there's some grim stuff out there at the moment.

Doesn't phase me any of that mate, grew up on the internet seen it all unfortunately.

 

[daveiw01]

It's no 1950 any more. Russia has the internet, they have access to outside news sources, the iron curtain hasn't existed for 30 years - they found ways to get news from the outside during the height of Stalin's reign, they have it in abundance now.

If they believe the propaganda it's because they choose to.

You only have to look at Brexit for the misinformation, on both sides, to see it's not as clear cut as you suggest.

 

[argyle]

There will be lot's of thoughts and prayers with the people's of Ukraine...

...until they flee and want to come to Western European countries.

Then there will be the traditional hatred of refugees.

 

[denislawsbackheel]

Didn't the powers that be make an agreement with Ukraine that if they agree to give up their nukes that we'd treat them as if they were a NATO member?

No

 

[Chris B]

It is Ukraine. Not The Ukraine.

Not aimed at just you, and apologies for what seems a petty and meaningless remark. It isn't. It is pretty fucking significant, particularly at this point when it's entire sovereignty and identity is being fannied about with.

A lot of people seem keen to make this point but I wonder how relevant it is. We happily talk about the UK, the Netherlands, and the US without delegitimising their existence as sovereign states.

I think one of the African nations uniquely officially has ‘The’ at the start of its title in a territorial sense (referring to the river). Can’t remember which one, The Gambia, The Congo, maybe.

Many other nations proudly have ‘The’ at the beginning in their official names, although generally in a non-territorial sense. Our own ‘The United Kingdom of…’ and various others: ‘The people’s democratic…’ etc.

 

[domalino]

So they both have "The" before them? I never said it doesn't matter I said that it wasn't unusual.

Fancy a holiday in the Sudan after this shenanigans to refuel the old batteries.

Are you going to Sudan or South Sudan?

 

[bluethrunthru]

scruffy haired twat taking up time to try and look like a stateman whilst saying nothing - worst PM we could have at the worst possible time

 

[Nebuchadnezzar]

Doesn't phase me any of that mate, grew up on the internet seen it all unfortunately.

Yep. Sad as it is, our generation have seen fucking allsorts. The mrs can't understand why I'm desensitised to some films.

 

[blueinsa]

Putin on Russian state TV?

Let’s see if the poster I quoted, who seemingly can only harp on about Tories in this thread will tell us all who said it?

My guess is they won’t.

This thread should be about Putin, not political point scoring, we have enough of them for that but if you want to go down that line constantly then at least appreciate what your own side is saying before going on about the other in a subject like this.

Putin is to blame here, no other fucker and he is busy murdering innocents.

 

[Coatigan]

Belarus is a puppet state aiding and abetting Putin

Maybe so. But as far as I'm aware (could be wrong) they haven't as a country invaded Ukraine. Russia has simply deployed their troops stationed in Belrus into Ukraine. So I understand at least.

 

[mexico1970]

Are you going to Sudan or South Sudan?

Maybe the south , the weather is much more clement this time of the year.

 

[west didsblue]

A lot of people seem keen to make this point but I wonder how relevant it is. We happily talk about the UK, the Netherlands, and the US without delegitimising their existence as sovereign states.

I think one of the African nations uniquely officially has ‘The’ at the start of its title in a territorial sense (referring to the river). Can’t remember which one, The Gambia, The Congo, maybe.

Many other nations proudly have ‘The’ at the beginning in their official names, although generally in a non-territorial sense. Our own ‘The United Kingdom of…’ and various others: ‘The people’s democratic…’ etc.

Your three examples are countries that consist of multiple entities. Ukraine is a single entity that grammatically doesn't need a "The".