United Thread - 2021/22

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OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
I presume that you’re right, though I’d not previously heard of Tom Brady, but the one certainty is that Ronaldo joining United was a means of putting 2 big brands together, using the reputation of what Ronaldo once was to get a bit of excitement going amongst shareholders and to release a share sale to take advantage of the temporary bump in the share price.

It was actually quite a complicated operation as they had to organise a number of Glazer shares being divided into a multiple of non-voting shares and it had to be ready to hit the market alined with the moment that the share bump occurred. And it did.

All very clever as the club pay Ronaldo’s ridiculous salary as a loss against taxable UK income and the Glazers take their humongous share profits direct into their offshore accounts in the Cayman Islands where MUFC are registered for business.

I bet Woodward got a juicy bonus out of it.
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The shares you mention

Do the people who buy them have any benefits from them like voting on matters etc

if they paid too whack for the shares there’s little chance of them going up in value. So for profit can be discounted I would have thought.
 
chedinho said:
The shares you mention

Do the people who buy them have any benefits from them like voting on matters etc

if they paid too whack for the shares there’s little chance of them going up in value. So for profit can be discounted I would have thought.
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They have different classes of shares, some with voting rights and some without.
iirc a class A share is equivalent in value to 10 class B shares and the Glazers converted a portion of their A class shares into B class shares to take advantage of the temporary hike in the share price.
There’s plenty about the united share model online if you care to look into it.

As for shares going up in value, in the case of a stable business they generally hold their value which is a useful protection nowadays.
They maintain their ‘value’ so that their prices generally go up due to quantitive easing which is what happens when governments print money to increase the money supply.
Printing money is a way of stealing from everybody’s bank accounts, because an increase in the amount of money in circulation consequently reduces the currency value.

In rough terms, shares are tied to an asset, and the asset maintains it’s value regardless of currency fluctuations so that a 10% increase in money supply results in a 10% reduction in the value of the currency which results in a 10% increase in the price of a share that is protected by being, in effect, a tangible asset.

If you’re in a common currency (such as the Euro) you can’t just print more money as that would devalue you neighbours currency, and this is why the UK wouldn’t join the European common currency.

As an example you’ll probably remember the issues in Greece following the worldwide banking collapse.
The UK managed the crisis by printing money (quantitive easing) thereby stealing from all of us to bail the banks out. But the Greek government, being in the Euro, couldn’t print money to surreptitiously steal from their people like ours did.
As they couldn’t take from their people by stealth, the had to be upfront about their problems and they set out to take a percentage of money out of everyone’s bank accounts which resulted in riots whereas here in the UK, we were robbed blind but didn’t even notice (Except inasmuch as we noticed the price of the things we bought ‘fixed assets’ going up).

The UK government does an awful lot of quantitive easing.
 
Mikejl said:
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Just in the current squad:
You missed off Rashford, Lingard, Jones, Maguire, (Greenwood).
Sancho shouldn't be near it now that he's at united, till he's consistent for 12 months.
Wan Bissaka has played for England (u21 and below).

Maybe allow Shaw as a backup
 
OccupiedPalestineBlues said:
They have different classes of shares, some with voting rights and some without.
iirc a class A share is equivalent in value to 10 class B shares and the Glazers converted a portion of their A class shares into B class shares to take advantage of the temporary hike in the share price.
There’s plenty about the united share model online if you care to look into it.

As for shares going up in value, in the case of a stable business they generally hold their value which is a useful protection nowadays.
They maintain their ‘value’ so that their prices generally go up due to quantitive easing which is what happens when governments print money to increase the money supply.
Printing money is a way of stealing from everybody’s bank accounts, because an increase in the amount of money in circulation consequently reduces the currency value.

In rough terms, shares are tied to an asset, and the asset maintains it’s value regardless of currency fluctuations so that a 10% increase in money supply results in a 10% reduction in the value of the currency which results in a 10% increase in the price of a share that is protected by being, in effect, a tangible asset.

If you’re in a common currency (such as the Euro) you can’t just print more money as that would devalue you neighbours currency, and this is why the UK wouldn’t join the European common currency.

As an example you’ll probably remember the issues in Greece following the worldwide banking collapse.
The UK managed the crisis by printing money (quantitive easing) thereby stealing from all of us to bail the banks out. But the Greek government, being in the Euro, couldn’t print money to surreptitiously steal from their people like ours did.
As they couldn’t take from their people by stealth, the had to be upfront about their problems and they set out to take a percentage of money out of everyone’s bank accounts which resulted in riots whereas here in the UK, we were robbed blind but didn’t even notice (Except inasmuch as we noticed the price of the things we bought ‘fixed assets’ going up).

The UK government does an awful lot of quantitive easing.
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Thank you for informed reply

i was baffled at how they were selling shares but not losing power
 
Well. Looks like there buying everyone again according to the BBC gossip page of the website.

Oh and Spits at kids thinks the rags should nick Tuchel now that Chelsea have stuff to deal with. Who knew he’d become an expert sociopath-political expert.

Think they’re getting a bit twitchy. over at swampland

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Perhaps the rags have decided on a new tactic for next season, they are going to sign 3 managers. They want Pochetino and den Hag, now it seems they want Tuchel.
That might sound daft, but bearing in mind they have the gpc, Fletcher as Dof, the guy that's replacing 3 planks AND rag Nick all telling the new manager how to run the team......
 
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