Political relations between UK-EU

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But seriously, every day seems to bring further insight into the sheer complexity of being in, and trying to get out of, the EU., economically, socially, and politically, and the every day effects of our ties with Europe, and the huge damage that is being caused so unecessarily.
The best description I heard was ‘trying to extract the eggs from a baked cake, and it surely gives the lie to the idea that they ‘knew what they were voting for’ because if this is what they saw coming and yet still voted for it, then you have to question the motives or sanity of some.

Many see it as a patriotic act - many hang on to everything people like JRM says - thats why Farage still has a platform - most of all its about peoples willingness to acknowledge they just might have made a mistake - history is full of individuals and groups whose refusal to do that has damaged themselves and their communities but then expect those that their actions have harmed and will harm to accept it is in fact their fault because they blocked and acted against the interests of what they think they voted for - something we are seeing now
 
Many see it as a patriotic act - many hang on to everything people like JRM says - thats why Farage still has a platform - most of all its about peoples willingness to acknowledge they just might have made a mistake - history is full of individuals and groups whose refusal to do that has damaged themselves and their communities but then expect those that their actions have harmed and will harm to accept it is in fact their fault because they blocked and acted against the interests of what they think they voted for - something we are seeing now
Yep, we are seeing fewer and fewer of them trying to defend the substance of brexit- if there ever was any outside their fevered imaginations- and more blame apportioning on those who told them pretty accurately what was going to happen.
it was the EU being mean and punishing us, and us not believing hard enough.
 
Yep, we are seeing fewer and fewer of them trying to defend the substance of brexit- if there ever was any outside their fevered imaginations- and more blame apportioning on those who told them pretty accurately what was going to happen.
it was the EU being mean and punishing us, and us not believing hard enough.

Have you seen Frosty the Showman pushing his article in one of the papers tomorrow blaming "Ultra - Remainers" for its failure - then explaining why the bits he and Johnson negotiated and signed off are shit and need sorting? Its a fucking parallel universe they inhabit
 
Have you seen Frosty the Showman pushing his article in one of the papers tomorrow blaming "Ultra - Remainers" for its failure - then explaining why the bits he and Johnson negotiated and signed off are shit and need sorting? Its a fucking parallel universe they inhabit
Yeah, so many words so much indignation so much blaming but not one single syllable about any brexit benefits.
I reckon that they’re going to have to do a ‘Rees mogg’ and ban him from the hustings for the next GE as he keeps mentioning the forbidden ‘b’ word.
 
Yeah, so many words so much indignation so much blaming but not one single syllable about any brexit benefits.
I reckon that they’re going to have to do a ‘Rees mogg’ and ban him from the hustings for the next GE as he keeps mentioning the forbidden ‘b’ word.

I think he thinks Brexit Ultra's occupy their place in the Curva Norda in the Stadio Delli Brexit bless his poor deranged mind
 
Was travelling on the M25 on Friday with endless warning signs about 90 minute delays on the M20 and cross channel tourists to take different routes. Twenty mile lorry queues of ‘taking back control’ :)

Thats a lie - you weren't travelling you were crawling if it was the M25 lol
 
Don’t forget that we are doing very few checks on goods coming into the UK from the EU, called free trade. What that means is that we are missing out on £bns in import duties. Money that could and should be offsetting our huge energy bills.
 
Shame, but expected.

‘The export share of SMEs is greater between EU member countries than for extra-EU trade. Therefore in line with expectations that SMEs from UK are ceasing exports to the EU now we're outside.’

And a further reminder to the brexiteers who told us that we could leave without a deal and trade on WTO rules just what WTO rules include.
A bit of an eye-opener for those (lots) who thought it was the panacea.
 
Fails its first major test - driving to France via Dover to be an extreme sport from now on


Traveling into the EU is far more inconvenient for UK visitors now in terms of clearing immigration. I suppose, however, that it'll have been so long since so many visited that they will forgotten how straightforward and convenient it was.
 
Traveling into the EU is far more inconvenient for UK visitors now in terms of clearing immigration. I suppose, however, that it'll have been so long since so many visited that they will forgotten how straightforward and convenient it was.
regular travellers will be in for a shock then - I mean the French could NOT stamp every passport and just deport all visitors to the DOC.
 
regular travellers will be in for a shock then - I mean the French could NOT stamp every passport and just deport all visitors to the DOC.
It's rather depressing when traveling to be stood watching people pass quickly and smoothly through the automated scanners as you wait in line with people from all four corners of the world to be checked manually. There are rarely more than a couple of officers on duty, and everyone in front of you appears to be asked more questions than in a round of Mastermind.
 

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