Real Madrid (A) Post Match Thread

come-on-barney said:
Wow, Lavinda, I’m far from a ‘happy clapper’ but you are going for it these last few days!
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I think that many fans have started to get a bit too comfortable about the future under Pep.

He's the best abd doesn't make many mistakes, but he's not infallible.

It's grown clear over the past two or three seasons that we've struggled to replace ageing players, and become increasingly reluctant to play academy players. The fact that Pep seems to be largely unconcerned and says, publicly, that he's happy with the squad, is a bit disconcerting. I can only imagine that he is 'under orders' to demonstrate that the club is making use of the academy, but only does so by leaving them on the bench.

In my view, he's growing increasingly desperate to win the CL, which is his obvious priority. He failed to do so at Bayern, and I suspect that his continuing failure to deliver the CL with City is affecting him more than anyone can imagine.

It's an obsession that concerns me. In my view, he overplays players who he considers to be essential to his cause, and looks no further than the next match.

Given the almost paper thin squad, and largely unconvincing use of the academy, I honestly think he and Txiki may have lost sight of the long term at City this season

My concern is that Pep will soon reach a point where he can't or won't want to go on, and the club will be nowhere near ready for the future.

As I've said before; anyone who thinks that Haaland is the only piece of the jigsaw missing is kidding themselves. We are five or six players short of a decent squad for next season. The academy lads aren't good enough yet, and we're burning players out by match week 30 of the season.

There's a big cliff on the horizon. If we're not careful, we could fall off it when Pep leaves.
 
Lavinda Past said:
I think that many fans have started to get a bit too comfortable about the future under Pep.

He's the best abd doesn't make many mistakes, but he's not infallible.

It's grown clear over the past two or three seasons that we've struggled to replace ageing players, and become increasingly reluctant to play academy players. The fact that Pep seems to be largely unconcerned and says, publicly, that he's happy with the squad, is a bit disconcerting. I can only imagine that he is 'under orders' to demonstrate that the club is making use of the academy, but only does so by leaving them on the bench.

In my view, he's growing increasingly desperate to win the CL, which is his obvious priority. He failed to do so at Bayern, and I suspect that his continuing failure to deliver the CL with City is affecting him more than anyone can imagine.

It's an obsession that concerns me. In my view, he overplays players who he considers to be essential to his cause, and looks no further than the next match.

Given the almost paper thin squad, and largely unconvincing use of the academy, I honestly think he and Txiki may have lost sight of the long term at City this season

My concern is that Pep will soon reach a point where he can't or won't want to go on, and the club will be nowhere near ready for the future.

As I've said before; anyone who thinks that Haaland is the only piece of the jigsaw missing is kidding themselves. We are five or six players short of a decent squad for next season. The academy lads aren't good enough yet, and we're burning players out by match week 30 of the season.

There's a big cliff on the horizon. If we're not careful, we could fall off it when Pep leaves.
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About 4 or 5 of them are ready to be brought into the first team. No youth player is ready in his first year even Messi wasn't ready in his first year, with Messi it was a gradual process from Rijkaard to Pep , if we follow the same 2-3 year timeline we used with Foden then we should have some quality first team players from the EDS.
 
Lavinda Past said:
I think that many fans have started to get a bit too comfortable about the future under Pep.

He's the best abd doesn't make many mistakes, but he's not infallible.

It's grown clear over the past two or three seasons that we've struggled to replace ageing players, and become increasingly reluctant to play academy players. The fact that Pep seems to be largely unconcerned and says, publicly, that he's happy with the squad, is a bit disconcerting. I can only imagine that he is 'under orders' to demonstrate that the club is making use of the academy, but only does so by leaving them on the bench.

In my view, he's growing increasingly desperate to win the CL, which is his obvious priority. He failed to do so at Bayern, and I suspect that his continuing failure to deliver the CL with City is affecting him more than anyone can imagine.

It's an obsession that concerns me. In my view, he overplays players who he considers to be essential to his cause, and looks no further than the next match.

Given the almost paper thin squad, and largely unconvincing use of the academy, I honestly think he and Txiki may have lost sight of the long term at City this season

My concern is that Pep will soon reach a point where he can't or won't want to go on, and the club will be nowhere near ready for the future.

As I've said before; anyone who thinks that Haaland is the only piece of the jigsaw missing is kidding themselves. We are five or six players short of a decent squad for next season. The academy lads aren't good enough yet, and we're burning players out by match week 30 of the season.

There's a big cliff on the horizon. If we're not careful, we could fall off it when Pep leaves.
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Our squad is two or three players away from being our most complete squad to date. Pep staying for the duration of Klopps contract is crucial to us. Without Pep they’d when the league every year.
 
East Level 2 said:
Quite possibly, but that would imply the VAR clowns were as incompetent as the ref as they review all potential red card incidents.
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Bigga said:
No, you're right, we're not eliminated cos we didn't play into a corner.

We're eliminated cos Real Madrid had a player on the pitch that shouldn't have been.

We're eliminated through Rodrigo miraculously heading a deflected ball into the top corner, he couldn't do in 500 attempts again, if he tried.

We're eliminated through the scraping a ball off the line from Grealish and we're eliminated by the minutest of touches off the studs of Courtois. But, also by an error in judgement for an unnecessary challenge from Dias.

Cheating and margins.

Nothing to do with motivation.
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Perfectly summed up. My thoughts exactly.
 
i♥city said:
About 4 or 5 of them are ready to be brought into the first team. No youth player is ready in his first year even Messi wasn't ready in his first year, with Messi it was a gradual process from Rijkaard to Pep , if we follow the same 2-3 year timeline we used with Foden then we should have some quality first team players from the EDS.
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Indeed.

Foden is not even 22 until the end of this month and there was nobody else in his age range of EDS good enough for City. So the next lot of potentially good enough are too young to be getting all that many minutes yet.

Although, even with a three month injury lay-off, Palmer’s minutes have gone from 98mins in 2020-21 to 413mins in 2021-22. He’s still not solely a first team player yet neither. And there will be more on the way.

If we can have three local lads in the first team regularly at any point, we’ll be doing well with the quality of team we are.
 
Steve Lomax, he took the ball into the corner whilst drawing with Liverpool at home. The thing is we needed a win to stay up. It would have been funny if it was anybody else but us. As it was, it was fucking depressing. We went down. It was in the late 90s
 
The defeat to Madrid reminds me of the defeat to utd, the 4-3.
We knew we were better than them, they knew, their fans knew, and the media knew, but they won.
It was just an anomaly. Next time we will destroy them like we did with the rags. Its coming.
We have wiped the floor with every domestic team, now it's time to go international.
 
redders said:
Steve Lomax, he took the ball into the corner whilst drawing with Liverpool at home. The thing is we needed a win to stay up. It would have been funny if it was anybody else but us. As it was, it was fucking depressing. We went down. It was in the late 90s
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*Lomas
 
Lavinda Past said:
I think that many fans have started to get a bit too comfortable about the future under Pep.

He's the best abd doesn't make many mistakes, but he's not infallible.

It's grown clear over the past two or three seasons that we've struggled to replace ageing players, and become increasingly reluctant to play academy players. The fact that Pep seems to be largely unconcerned and says, publicly, that he's happy with the squad, is a bit disconcerting. I can only imagine that he is 'under orders' to demonstrate that the club is making use of the academy, but only does so by leaving them on the bench.

In my view, he's growing increasingly desperate to win the CL, which is his obvious priority. He failed to do so at Bayern, and I suspect that his continuing failure to deliver the CL with City is affecting him more than anyone can imagine.

It's an obsession that concerns me. In my view, he overplays players who he considers to be essential to his cause, and looks no further than the next match.

Given the almost paper thin squad, and largely unconvincing use of the academy, I honestly think he and Txiki may have lost sight of the long term at City this season

My concern is that Pep will soon reach a point where he can't or won't want to go on, and the club will be nowhere near ready for the future.

As I've said before; anyone who thinks that Haaland is the only piece of the jigsaw missing is kidding themselves. We are five or six players short of a decent squad for next season. The academy lads aren't good enough yet, and we're burning players out by match week 30 of the season.

There's a big cliff on the horizon. If we're not careful, we could fall off it when Pep leaves.
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Okay I’ll play. I have stated on other threads that whilst I think Pep is a fantastic coach, I have never really bought into him personally like Roberto. That press conference changed my thinking. I was blown away, as were our rival fans. He was humble, and he wore his heart on his sleeve. He stated the CL was not a condition placed on him by the club, just to compete well in all trophies. He’s far from desperate to win it. To your point about him not carrying on. His press conference showed the passion of the man. He was basically saying he loves this club and wants to carry on. Pep is going nowhere. I agree that we need more than Haaland but so does Pep. As I said I was not bought into Pep and his passion, but yesterday he was amazing. No throwing his players under the bus, but great comments like they needed to think about it. After that press conference I was like where’s my boots, you would run through brick walls for him after his comments. His heart was laid bear on his sleeve. Any player that does not turn up tomorrow after Pep’s comments I don’t want at our club next season.
 
come-on-barney said:
Okay I’ll play. I have stated on other threads that whilst I think Pep is a fantastic coach, I have never really bought into him personally like Roberto. That press conference changed my thinking. I was blown away, as were our rival fans. He was humble, and he wore his heart on his sleeve. He stated the CL was not a condition placed on him by the club, just to compete well in all trophies. He’s far from desperate to win it. To your point about him not carrying on. His press conference showed the passion of the man. He was basically saying he loves this club and wants to carry on. Pep is going nowhere. I agree that we need more than Haaland but so does Pep. As I said I was not bought into Pep and his passion, but yesterday he was amazing. No throwing his players under the bus, but great comments like they needed to think about it. After that press conference I was like where’s my boots, you would run through brick walls for him after his comments. His heart was laid bear on his sleeve. Any player that does not turn up tomorrow after Pep’s comments I don’t want at our club next season.
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I agree 100%.

It's our succession policy that worries me most.

Never mind Kompany, Aguero, Fernandinho, Yaya not being adequately replaced when they left... the problem is, how on earth does anyone follow Pep Guardiola?
 
Lavinda Past said:
I agree 100%.

It's our succession policy that worries me most.

Never mind Kompany, Aguero, Fernandinho, Yaya not being adequately replaced when they left... the problem is, how on earth does anyone follow Pep Guardiola?
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That is going to be very hard as we all know. I think Pep will also have a say on his successor.
 
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