Media Thread - 2021/22

[The perfect fumble]

Anyone with half a brain knows the facts of the matter regarding the Bennell case and the process followed through the legal system by the insurers defending the case.

This 'journalist' accusing City of 'gaslighting' Bennell's victims is aiming an appalling slur at our club. He should be asked who it is he's doing the 'gaslighting' for..

I daresay City will look at recent comments like this and take action if it's necessary, in its own time. Suggestions like this 'gaslighting of victims of paedophilia' should not be allowed to develop traction amongst the wider public opinion. Those who are behind such attempts to sully our club in such ways should be brought to book for their own actions.

To borrow from The Smiths, 'Heavy words, so lightly thrown..' Everything has a consequence.. and 'journalists' (hah!) should realise this more than most (double, nay, triple hah!)..

I would bet everything I own on the club doing absolutely nothing.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

The BBC are giving us decent coverage on their Football web page. Must have given the usual warped reporters the night off.

Manchester-based Simon Stone and his boss Dan Roan have pretty much ignored City's success apart from a few tweets highlighting the pitch invasion. There is a genuine problem within BBC sport online. The Manchester-based Football Reporter spent the last day covering Brentford v Leeds in London. This is just strange really considering the PL finale was a headline story across the world including all the main US networks and media outlets.

 

[Bodicoteblue]

This means more. I like that, it's catchy.

Yeah.. it might work as a catchy slogan to impress some gullible moronic types at some football clubs, but ultimately it doesn’t mean anything at all.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Never understand why anyone would still employ this chap, he's not very bright and he beat up his girlfriend. Why would you give him a job?

It's very strange really. Collymore is a drunken thug who beats up women and was caught "dogging" on Cannock Chase. Now I am reasonably liberal-minded about what people do in their private life and am open-minded about Collymore's addiction problems. But his behaviour suggests he is not very smart so I can't see why he would be given a platform in a national newspaper talking about football finance. It just undermines the Mirror's own credibility.

 

[MillionMilesAway]

Pretty shit fan in my opinion ;)

Damnit.

 

[Man_City_Loyal]

It's very strange really. Collymore is a drunken thug who beats up women and was caught "dogging" on Cannock Chase. Now I am reasonably liberal-minded about what people do in their private life and am open-minded about Collymore's addiction problems. But his behaviour suggests he is not very smart so I can't see why he would be given a platform in a national newspaper talking about football finance. It just undermines the Mirror's own credibility.

he was begging for people to leave him alone at the Euros in France. must only grow a pair behind the keyboard or towards women

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Not a popular hack on here but this article is ok.

Pep Guardiola and Manchester City’s sky blue wash will define this era | Barney Ronay

The manager has become central to Manchester City’s approach of setting about elite sport like a political project

www.theguardian.com

Ronay is moving his position but he still can't let go of the totally false claim that "City are owned by a nation state." He can't be that stupid can he? He can check all the audited accounts carried out over 14 years by blue chip firms with impeccable reputations. He knows the claim has been tested in court, and independently investigated by scores of lawyers for UEFA, the PL, and those doing due diligence for the Chinese and US firms who bought a 24 per cent stake in our club.
Not even Der Spiegl or UEFA have accused us of being "owned by a nation state." Their worst allegation (disproved) was that ten years ago some of our sponsorship money may have come direct from our owner not the sponsor.
Yet Ronay and his pals can't let go of a claim that is verifiably false. On that basis you can't believe anything he writes about anything. You just can't trust him. Is he incompetent or motivated by malice?

 

[coolcity]

I don't like the "City and Liverpool dominating" but in any sport great champions are usually defined by having great rivals. Utds dominance of the Premier league in the 90's will not be regarded as great era because there was no real long term rivalry. By leaving Liverpool in the conversation as a great team makes our near complete domination of them even greater.

Totally agree, but the media will never see it that way. They're practically foaming at the mouth, begging Liverpool to win the CL trophy so they can dismiss our season as completely irrelevant.

They're not far off that now, all I've seen on SSN are snippets of Liverpool and Klopp, we've barely got a mention. I can understand that for this season if the lift the CL trophy but at least give us some credit for the 4 out of 5. Yesterday the biggest news was Ten Hag's news conference, we didn't even get a mention until they'd got that out of the way.

 

[ultimateharold]

hehe

 

[coolcity]

he was begging for people to leave him alone at the Euros in France. must only grow a pair behind the keyboard or towards women

The Mirror have credibility?

They lost that for me 30+ years ago when they sold me an 8-page derby pull out special, and the only time we were mentioned in the entire 8 pages was in the day's fixture list on the back.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

He just couldn't help himself though with things like:
'There are of course other sides to this transformation. City’s nation-state ownership is 14 years old now' and also:
'City’s superpower has been to set about elite level sport with the coherence of an overt political project, backed by bottomless reserves, extreme executive competence and a willingness to litigate.' I think we have now reached a cross roads with the media. The average football fan has wised up to the extreme Liverpool / United biased media and have started to see what it is with their own eyes. It has got both irritating and boring for them. It's turning them off and making us more likeable. Also, after Sunday, the success we have achieved and how we have gone about it on the pitch is starting to be recognised. The football is truly undeniably sublime and the average football fan see's and realises this and and now actually admires it. Therefore the MSM have a problem. Obviously the likes of SKY will not stop the way they do things in the foreseeable future as their business model is based on armchair supporters paying their subscriptions. The press will have to start to moderate their blatant bias, spite and bile as it has become a turnoff and not a turn on to Mr average which means less clicks and therefore less advertising revenues. I guess we can live in hope.

Great post. It is clear that the mainstream football media is well out of touch with its audience. The reality is that what has happened to English football in the last ten years is amazing, Our clubs dominate at the top in Europe and the national team has been to a World Cup semi and a Euros Final. There has been a revolution led by people like Pep which has transformed the game.
It has been a great story but some elements of the media have missed that story because of their fixation on the past. It has been a huge missed opportunity for organisations like SKY who are unwilling or unable to change from their "1990s banter generation" coverage. That's why SKY will be wiped out by the large streaming media groups and the football clubs themselves (owning and controlling their own media coverage via pay-per-view).

 

[coolcity]

SSN were peddling that all day yesterday.

Re: Ten Hag's statement that he was going to break the dominance of City and Liverpool, yes it was headline news at 1 p.m., ahead of the fact that we'd just won the title.

Oddly I didn't realise Liverpool were dominating anything. Didn't the rags finish 2nd last year? Another manager who knows nothing about their history then, not even as recent as last season.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Re: Ten Hag's statement that he was going to break the dominance of City and Liverpool, yes it was headline news at 1 p.m., ahead of the fact that we'd just won the title.

Oddly I didn't realise Liverpool were dominating anything. Didn't the rags finish 2nd last year? Another manager who knows nothing about their history then, not even as recent as last season.

Bookies are giving 1/4 on that they don't win the league for at least the next 3 years, poundland will be history ages before that bet can pay out.

 

[PPT]

Great post. It is clear that the mainstream football media is well out of touch with its audience. The reality is that what has happened to English football in the last ten years is amazing, Our clubs dominate at the top in Europe and the national team has been to a World Cup semi and a Euros Final. There has been a revolution led by people like Pep which has transformed the game.
It has been a great story but some elements of the media have missed that story because of their fixation on the past. It has been a huge missed opportunity for organisations like SKY who are unwilling or unable to change from their "1990s banter generation" coverage. That's why SKY will be wiped out by the large streaming media groups and the football clubs themselves (owning and controlling their own media coverage via pay-per-view).

Exactly this and it will be the American owned clubs that drive the switch to PPV on their own channels and it's coming soon. Why SKY can't see this is strange (or maybe they can and just don't know what to do about it?). If they became more neutral, fair, balanced and objective with their football coverage and made the subscription charges affordable then everyone would benefit. With SKY blowing smoke up the backsides of the American owned clubs and aggressively promoting them above all others it does seem like turkeys voting for Christmas.

 

[mat]

Manchester-based Simon Stone and his boss Dan Roan have pretty much ignored City's success apart from a few tweets highlighting the pitch invasion. There is a genuine problem within BBC sport online. The Manchester-based Football Reporter spent the last day covering Brentford v Leeds in London. This is just strange really considering the PL finale was a headline story across the world including all the main US networks and media outlets.

A few years ago I remember it being revealed that "A symbiotic relationship" between BBC Sport and the scum being revealed.

I wonder if the same relationship is offered to the Scouse as well?

 

[eastmanc]

Yeah.. it might work as a catchy slogan to impress some gullible moronic types at some football clubs, but ultimately it doesn’t mean anything at all.

I wonder which club used something like that before, oh yeah it was Liverpool.

 

[kp220]

Ferran Soriano:

"We are not a ‘state club’, we are a club owned by three shareholders that look for profit... We don’t have more money/resources than the others. You only have to look at Manchester United’s spending these last few years and you’ll see they’ve spent more money."

[via Esports Rac1]

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

Exactly this and it will be the American owned clubs that drive the switch to PPV on their own channels and it's coming soon. Why SKY can't see this is strange (or maybe they can and just don't know what to do about it?). If they became more neutral, fair, balanced and objective with their football coverage and made the subscription charges affordable then everyone would benefit. With SKY blowing smoke up the backsides of the American owned clubs and aggressively promoting them above all others it does seem like turkeys voting for Christmas.

Perhaps SKY are in some sort of denial like the printed press were about the Internet. I actually despise their childish match coverage these days with people like Tyler. I am in my sixties and yet I feel it is outdated. What do younger fans think? You are right they are so obsessed with clickbait that they are promoting LFC and MUFC, the clubs who are trying to put them out of business.

 

[WRicko]

He just couldn't help himself though with things like:

'There are of course other sides to this transformation. City’s nation-state ownership is 14 years old now' and also:
'City’s superpower has been to set about elite level sport with the coherence of an overt political project, backed by bottomless reserves, extreme executive competence and a willingness to litigate.' I think we have now reached a cross roads with the media. The average football fan has wised up to the extreme Liverpool / United biased media and have started to see what it is with their own eyes. It has got both irritating and boring for them. It's turning them off and making us more likeable. Also, after Sunday, the success we have achieved and how we have gone about it on the pitch is starting to be recognised. The football is truly undeniably sublime and the average football fan see's and realises this and and now actually admires it. Therefore the MSM have a problem. Obviously the likes of SKY will not stop the way they do things in the foreseeable future as their business model is based on armchair supporters paying their subscriptions. The press will have to start to moderate their blatant bias, spite and bile as it has become a turnoff and not a turn on to Mr average which means less clicks and therefore less advertising revenues. I guess we can live in hope.

The litigate bit is a bit of a strange comment

 

[Moss Side's Finest]

Another gripe I have is that whenever anyone is talking about teams like united and Chelsea becoming a force again, they almost without exception say (in this exact order) that they are years away from getting close to "Liverpool and City". Why is it always that order? One team has won 6 of the last 10 (and 4 of the last 5) Premier League titles and one has won one.