Nathan Ake

[razman]

 

[Churchlawtonblue]

Certainly not, I have previous postings as to my own view on his abilities.

He might look better in Chelsea's system, but he stands out for his lack of technical ability and defending high.

Nathan doesn't trust himself to pass inside, so his go-to is jamming the left-back in with a safe pass. Aerially, certainly when attacking the ball, excellent.

Irony is, his best game in a City shirt was against Atletico Madrid at home when he was playing on the left, because he wasn't worried about players running in behind him.

I have the same concerns about Laporte when it comes to it, defending high, always wanting to get touch tight because they don't want a foot race.

Eric, however, is much more suited because he is brilliant in possession.

If we are getting £50m plus for a fourth-placed defender who isn't bothered either way if he stays or leaves, certainly due to his former ties to Chelsea, I see no reason to lose any sleep over it.

A fourth CB replacement could be an outstanding youth prospect or a seasoned veteran?

Ok fair enough, but let me asknyou thus Tolmie, How much did we pay for him, wasn't it 40m to 50m anyway. So what's the point if selling him for roughly the same money, unless we have someone better lined up as 4th choice for less. Which would seem pretty unlikely as very good defenders cost £40m plus and they don't want to be 4th choice.

 

[Mr-Mertle]

Ok fair enough, but let me asknyou thus Tolmie, How much did we pay for him, wasn't it 40m to 50m anyway. So what's the point if selling him for roughly the same money, unless we have someone better lined up as 4th choice for less. Which would seem pretty unlikely as very good defenders cost £40m plus and they don't want to be 4th choice.

I don't think we need a fourth CB worth 40-50 million. A Pablo Mari/Johnny Evans type would be fine. Someone with PL experience on the older side who can fill a gap when needed. That's it.

 

[bellwhaft]

Phil Jones might be available.

 

[flook]

Certainly not, I have previous postings as to my own view on his abilities.

He might look better in Chelsea's system, but he stands out for his lack of technical ability and defending high.

Nathan doesn't trust himself to pass inside, so his go-to is jamming the left-back in with a safe pass. Aerially, certainly when attacking the ball, excellent.

Irony is, his best game in a City shirt was against Atletico Madrid at home when he was playing on the left, because he wasn't worried about players running in behind him.

I have the same concerns about Laporte when it comes to it, defending high, always wanting to get touch tight because they don't want a foot race.

Eric, however, is much more suited because he is brilliant in possession.

If we are getting £50m plus for a fourth-placed defender who isn't bothered either way if he stays or leaves, certainly due to his former ties to Chelsea, I see no reason to lose any sleep over it.

A fourth CB replacement could be an outstanding youth prospect or a seasoned veteran?

couldn't disagree more, as an out and out defender he's the best we have, positionally excellent, exellent in the air, knows when to tackle, knows when to stand off (laporte could learn a lot from him in that respect).

I'll concede he's not the most comfortable of our back 4 on the ball, nor the most creative of passers, but those are abilities low on the list of a centre half.........usually

 

[RayCTID]

Phil Jones might be available.

I would rather have Ben Mee and that is stretching it

 

[DeBlueLou]

Either City are working like with Ortega, very hush hush, OR they actually will go with Mbete (Which is naive). Seems like a deal with Chelsea is close.

 

[skyblue92]

If ake goes we are seriously weak at the back , by that I mean in numbers would only be an injury or two away from another defensive crisis like last season .

3 cbs in Dias stones laporte for 2 positions
3 fullbacks in Walker cancelo zinchenko for 2 positions

Cucurella is a must , and with past injury records of of our 3 cbs I would also think another cb would be a priority.

 

[GazM]

Shame if he goes. I grew to like him and appreciate what he brings to the team.

I like his piano playing & am envious of his hairstyle. £50m if true is a lot for a 4th choice CB though. Hope the club aren't taking chances again by not replacing a squad member as these things usually back-fire.

 

[VOOMER]

If ake goes we are seriously weak at the back , by that I mean in numbers would only be an injury or two away from another defensive crisis like last season .

3 cbs in Dias stones laporte for 2 positions
3 fullbacks in Walker cancelo zinchenko for 2 positions

Cucurella is a must , and with past injury records of of our 3 cbs I would also think another cb would be a priority.

Mbete will come good, but we need two lefts backs not one. First choice world class player and a sprog with pace. Z deserves the chance to play more in midfield.

 

[Robinho's Subbuteo]

Phil Jones might be available.

Might?

 

[Coatigan]

What do u mean?

That it was twitter bollocks.

 

[bluesince76]

So you would fancy dias chasing back from a high line ?

Ake
Stones
Laporte
Dias

That is how I personally rank the cbs based on pace

As I said, over 1/3 of a pitch, suspect he'd be quicker than Ake, but his acceleration is poor, probably due to his size. I'd say Stones is quickest of the four of them however you look at it, but Walker aside, there's not a lot of pace in whoever makes up the rest of the back four.

If Ake goes, I'd like to see someone a bit quicker come in, as I don't think we need size with the other choices. That said, I'm not sure how quick Cucurella is, so maybe we'd end up with two fairly quick fullbacks to provide cover

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

We would have to be certifiably insane to sell him.

 

[vin]

Mbete will come good, but we need two lefts backs not one. First choice world class player and a sprog with pace. Z deserves the chance to play more in midfield.

Zinchenko ain’t getting in our midfield. Pep doesn’t see him as a midfielder in this team I think that is plain to see.
Let’s be honest, if Pep doesn’t trust/use Phil fuckin Foden as an 8 then how on earth is Zinchenko gunna get a gig there?

 

[waspish]

Ok fair enough, but let me asknyou thus Tolmie, How much did we pay for him, wasn't it 40m to 50m anyway. So what's the point if selling him for roughly the same money, unless we have someone better lined up as 4th choice for less. Which would seem pretty unlikely as very good defenders cost £40m plus and they don't want to be 4th choice.

41m

 

[RayCTID]

We would have to be certifiably insane to sell him.

I get where you are coming from but Ake won't be getting much game time this season. And that is the bigger issue.

 

[Woody135]

Can’t understand why we are letting him leave. Stones is unable to stay fit for any length of time and he will get plenty of game time

To be fair, Ake has as bad an injury record as stones. If we’re shaking 50+ out of chelsea for ake then we’ve got a great deal, but they must (and looks like they’ll try to) replace him

 

[razman]

That it was twitter bollocks.

twitter bollocks - is mainly from the Josh Wilson / Samuel Pains etc whom I don't bother posting about on here - coz its not worth it posting on here ! coz it is bollocks

At least in my case whenever I post are from Aggregators who have decent following who quote from established outlets - otherwise I won't bother posting that.

 

[Father Paul]

If ake goes we are seriously weak at the back , by that I mean in numbers would only be an injury or two away from another defensive crisis like last season .

3 cbs in Dias stones laporte for 2 positions
3 fullbacks in Walker cancelo zinchenko for 2 positions

Cucurella is a must , and with past injury records of of our 3 cbs I would also think another cb would be a priority.

Yes we need to be well stocked up to avoid what happened in the last two games of the season just gone