Hip Hop/Rap Appreciation thread

Can't think of a better Breaker's tune than Arthur Baker's 'Breaker's Revenge'.

This scene in 'Beat Street' represented my whole youth! We took part in the Apollo battles where my crew and I ended up battling Jason Orange and his crew. Top prize was £30, if I remember correctly?

I was never happier!

 
Bigga said:
Can't think of a better Breaker's tune than Arthur Baker's 'Breaker's Revenge'.

This scene in 'Beat Street' represented my whole youth! We took part in the Apollo battles where my crew and I ended up battling Jason Orange and his crew. Top prize was £30, if I remember correctly?

I was never happier!

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Throwback classic.
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
I can't see him being like that, but he has gone through a fair amount of ghost writers over the years hasn't he
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Dre is an absolute plagiarist.

Warren G is the reason The Chronic was so good. Sourced the entire G Funk sound. Dre ensured he got fuck all credit.

Scott Storch and Hitman did all of the sound for 2001. Again, Dre took all the credit.

And yep, tons of ghostwriters. Not the genius people think.
 
youngbob said:
Think Jay Z's overall discography is a bit underrated, you know.

Obviously he's really well regarded and he's hardly underrated as an MC but some of his "lesser" albums have got loads of terrific stuff that gets overlooked imo.

He's obviously got his three classics (Reasonable Doubt, The Blueprint, The Black Album) and the odd stinker (Magna Carta, Unfinished Business) but albums like In My Lifetime, The Dynasty, American Gangster, and The Blueprint 3 are all pretty underrated by hip hop heads.

Not sure why. Maybe serious heads see them as pop albums and get a bit sniffy about them? I don't think he's ever had a run of undisputed classics like Ice Cube, Eminem, Kendrick, or whoever, but the lesser parts of his discography are a lot stronger than they're given credit for imo.
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100% spot on. Jay Z has been on fire since the black album but for some reason a lot of people have missed it.

His verse on Rick Ross’ The Devil is a lie is ridiculous. Same for Apeshit.

And he has some absolute bangers on the albums you mentioned. I didn’t like Magna Carta at first but Oceans is one of his best songs ever and Picasso Baby is a cracker. Kingdom Come is also a solid album from start to finish, and American Gangster is a classic.
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
Dre is an absolute plagiarist.

Warren G is the reason The Chronic was so good. Sourced the entire G Funk sound. Dre ensured he got fuck all credit.

Scott Storch and Hitman did all of the sound for 2001. Again, Dre took all the credit.

And yep, tons of ghostwriters. Not the genius people think.
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Scott Storch didn't do all the sound for 2001. He's even admitted he came near the end of the album being recorded.

Personally, I feel without the D.O.C writing the lyrics for the Chronic, it wouldn't have been what it is.

Dre's a genius, and that's come from everyone he's worked with
 
Thaksinssoldier said:
100% spot on. Jay Z has been on fire since the black album but for some reason a lot of people have missed it.

His verse on Rick Ross’ The Devil is a lie is ridiculous. Same for Apeshit.

And he has some absolute bangers on the albums you mentioned. I didn’t like Magna Carta at first but Oceans is one of his best songs ever and Picasso Baby is a cracker. Kingdom Come is also a solid album from start to finish, and American Gangster is a classic.
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AG intro is chilling.

Great album with some voice samples from the film.
 
Bigga said:
Anyone got a BANGER of a track never released?

Mine is 'Lifetime'- Mos Def:



It's just so different and it's PURE Hip Hop, not rap.

That album 'True Magic' was something else.
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I have two, quite recent ones



Unreleased Eminem and Dr Dre - Die Hard. Only a snippet of the track ever came out as it was used during apromo video for the Manny Pacquiao vs Shane Mosley fight some years ago



Obviously, the beats been used for decades, but when Conway premiered this track dancing with Mary J Blige everyone was buzzing for it.

Also to add. Nas recorded 3 versions of Ether, and only 1 was ever released. The one I'd of loved to hear is the version where he raps about wishing Dame Dash had died in the air plane crash that Aaliyah lost her life in.

Also Jay-Z & Lethal Bizzle with a Pow remix
 
Man_City_Loyal said:
I have two, quite recent ones



Unreleased Eminem and Dr Dre - Die Hard. Only a snippet of the track ever came out as it was used during apromo video for the Manny Pacquiao vs Shane Mosley fight some years ago



Obviously, the beats been used for decades, but when Conway premiered this track dancing with Mary J Blige everyone was buzzing for it.

Also to add. Nas recorded 3 versions of Ether, and only 1 was ever released. The one I'd of loved to hear is the version where he raps about wishing Dame Dash had died in the air plane crash that Aaliyah lost her life in.

Also Jay-Z & Lethal Bizzle with a Pow remix
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I'm still annoyed the Benny shows in Manchester and London got cancelled.
 
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