The "let's talk" thread

BMR I hope it helps you to know that ‘talking’ to us on BM is a release. Sometimes there are things you don’t want to upset your family by saying out loud but just writing it here is a ‘release’. My thoughts and prayers are with you all especially you and your Mum. *hugs*
 
My dad passed away 18 years ago in an old folks home and i couldn't be there due to having a young family and working away. They said Sunday evening that the end was near. I couldn't be there as i didn't get paid sick leave.

My situation is different now to back then and when she needed a full time carer i decided to take that position. My brother was doing it previously but he wanted to go back to work full time as he said it was too demanding, that was two years ago.

I never realised how demanding being a carer is and it's had an impact in my wellbeing but i felt duty bound and have got through it. Was hard before mum became bed bound as she thought she was more mobile than she actually was and had several falls resulting in hospital stays.

My eldest daughter has been a big help as she's a district nurse so is used to dealing with end of life situations. Only yesterday she said not to give her grandma any more food and drinks or her usual medication. This hit home hard that she is near end of life and something i was kind of expecting but didn't really know what to expect.

I stayed at her house and tried getting a few hours sleep but haven't slept a wink because I've been able to hear her shallow breathing panting for breath. I was almost asleep at 6am but the doctor knocked on. He basically said what my daughter told me to prepare for her passing.

I'll be sad when the time comes but will feel relieved she is no longer suffering. I was in two minds whether to post on here but i wanted to get things off my chest, and i feel I have. Writing stuff like this isn't easy but it gives others on here an insight in preparing for the worst, and people like you OB who have gone through it yourself.

Thanks for your reply mate.
We were told to prepare for passing. There are 4 of us so I decided everyone gets 10 mins each by mums bed on their own then we gathered round and she drifted off peacefully. She had cancer and was going into hospital for first treatment. I didn't tell her I was travelling from London just turned up at hospital. That was Monday and on Wednesday told she didn't have long left. She passed that afternoon with pneumonia being down as the reason
 
Could've done with this thread a few weeks ago when i was feeling a slow as i have ever been. A lot of the things in my life were going wrong.
My Ma died suddenly, my wife had reached the end of any meaningful treatment for her MS and was going downhill very fast. On top of that my business was facing closure due to circumstances beyond my control.

Like a typical bloke i kept all my worries to myself and began to deal with them by getting lost in booze. My health was starting to suffer and mentally i was struggling to hold it all together.

One afternoon in the pub i met a really nice woman and we got chatting about life and i admitted mine was shit at the moment. She asked me why and i just laid it all out ( i admit i was filling up whilst doing this but managed to hold meself together) without pulling any punches. The woman listened and offered support and some good advice (she'd been through depression earlier in life). Almost immediately after chatting i began to feel better, and by the next day i was in a much better place.

I have never spilled my feelings out like that before as i'm the 'strong one' who holds all my family together and supports everyone else. If anyone is still reading this and is feeling swamped with life i urge you to talk to someone, anyone you feel comfortable with. It will help.

Fast forward to now and things are much rosier. New experimental drugs for the missus are working well, i've been offered help for the business and i made a very good new friend. My Ma is still dead but you can't have everything eh...
 
Although it's really sad it's also great to see so many can now open up about their feelings. If struggling check out mind, body&sole on social media. Been great help to me through tough low times since lockdown. They understand it from a 'lads' and football culture side of things.
 
BMR, I’m sure your situation brings back a lot of memories for others who’ve been there mate (as it does me), so know just what an awful thing it is you’re all going through, it’s fuckin heartbreaking, especially watching someone who you remember being so strong, so capable.

Just remember she’s where she wants to be, surrounded by the people she wants to be surrounded by, only advice I would offer, and I say this from personal experience, no matter how far out of it she may seem, still talk to her, hold her hand, hug her, kiss her, tell her how much you love her, because as I say from personal experience, she’ll likely be aware still, if you do all this already, keep doing it and don’t stop.

Best wishes mate.
Thanks pal. I think mum is kind of aware what's going on but is now (seems to me) to be at the stage where she's drifting in and out of delirium. My daughter face timed her aunt last night who lives in Italy and my sister was shocked at mum's deterioration. She cant come over right now as she's broken her foot so it's unlikely she'll see her again, unfortunately. My sister told her she loves her and mum uttered faintly "i love you too", which was a comfort to my sis.

Was in the garden earlier having a brew and bite to eat when the care company manager knocked on. My bro was watching over her so i wasn't aware he'd called. When i went in the house i was surprised to see 3 paramedics and two policemen there. The care company manager rang 999 and they can't have been 10 minutes from receiving the call to being there( a big thanks to our wonderful NHS staff: )

They had mum on oxygen and wanted to take her to hospital but i said no. Mum has a recently put together end of life plan which they wasn't aware of. Besides that the doctor who saw her early this morning never left any notes. She has a DNR( do not resuscitate) plan that's been in place about 6 months now that we discussed with mum back then.

Since last night mum has gotten worse but seems to be pain free. Whether she is or not i don't really know. Said she hasn't been in pain whenever I've asked. The paramedics administered 2.5 mg of morphine before they left so that will have kicked in now.

Mum knows she's received love and compassion in being well cared for, and will hopefully pass away as pain free as possible, whenever the time comes.
 
Thanks pal. I think mum is kind of aware what's going on but is now (seems to me) to be at the stage where she's drifting in and out of delirium. My daughter face timed her aunt last night who lives in Italy and my sister was shocked at mum's deterioration. She cant come over right now as she's broken her foot so it's unlikely she'll see her again, unfortunately. My sister told her she loves her and mum uttered faintly "i love you too", which was a comfort to my sis.

Was in the garden earlier having a brew and bite to eat when the care company manager knocked on. My bro was watching over her so i wasn't aware he'd called. When i went in the house i was surprised to see 3 paramedics and two policemen there. The care company manager rang 999 and they can't have been 10 minutes from receiving the call to being there( a big thanks to our wonderful NHS staff: )

They had mum on oxygen and wanted to take her to hospital but i said no. Mum has a recently put together end of life plan which they wasn't aware of. Besides that the doctor who saw her early this morning never left any notes. She has a DNR( do not resuscitate) plan that's been in place about 6 months now that we discussed with mum back then.

Since last night mum has gotten worse but seems to be pain free. Whether she is or not i don't really know. Said she hasn't been in pain whenever I've asked. The paramedics administered 2.5 mg of morphine before they left so that will have kicked in now.

Mum knows she's received love and compassion in being well cared for, and will hopefully pass away as pain free as possible, whenever the time comes.
No worries BMR, as the lady from MacMillan said to me with my Nana, she may not be able to communicate or respond, but she knows you’re here and she can hear you, so say and do all the things you would as if she were awake and coherent, I’m sure it’s the same with your Mum, I’ll maybe tell you the whole story one day and that will make more sense, but for now hope things go as well as can be expected in the circumstances mate.
 
Apologies to a couple of posters i haven't replied to. Thank you for your support and kind words. Not easy collecting my thoughts and putting them into words but it's helped me since bumping this thread.
I know just what you are going through mate and no words will make the situation better so just be safe in the knowledge that you have done everything that you could.

You know where I am.
 
Mum died peacefully at home yesterday afternoon. I had to nip to the chemist for morphine and when i got back my daughter said mum was dying. It was quite an emotional moment but as she drew her last breath i held her hand and told her i loved her. I think she held on for me

RIP mum x
No situation like this is ideal but this is close and beautiful. Rip.
 
Mum died peacefully at home yesterday afternoon. I had to nip to the chemist for morphine and when i got back my daughter said mum was dying. It was quite an emotional moment but as she drew her last breath i held her hand and told her i loved her. I think she held on for me

RIP mum x

Hi BMR.

I read a few of your reports of how you handled things. I'm full of admiration of your personal strength, but mostly of the love that permeates through, for your mum.

Hard for me to relate to, but it's something I have always imagined.

RIP to her. It looks like she did a grand job.
 
Mum died peacefully at home yesterday afternoon. I had to nip to the chemist for morphine and when i got back my daughter said mum was dying. It was quite an emotional moment but as she drew her last breath i held her hand and told her i loved her. I think she held on for me

RIP mum x
So sorry for your loss mate,i was in the same situation a long time ago with my mum.
The most important thing is that you were with her at the end,and she would have known you were.
RIP.
 
Mum died peacefully at home yesterday afternoon. I had to nip to the chemist for morphine and when i got back my daughter said mum was dying. It was quite an emotional moment but as she drew her last breath i held her hand and told her i loved her. I think she held on for me

RIP mum x
Thinking of you and family at this sad time mate
 
Mum died peacefully at home yesterday afternoon. I had to nip to the chemist for morphine and when i got back my daughter said mum was dying. It was quite an emotional moment but as she drew her last breath i held her hand and told her i loved her. I think she held on for me

RIP mum x
Comfort and peace from the pain of grief. Remember all the good times and treasure them.
 
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Firstly can I offer my condolences to Bluemoonrisin. I can't imagine what it's like losing a mum.



I'm going through a really tough patch.

I got married last year, pretty much a year to the day. I always thought I wanted some more kids, and she certainly does. More than anything.

But I have a 7 yo girl and she's my life. But ever since me and her Mum split up it's eaten me alive. I went from seeing her every day and doing everything on weekends and on a night, to seeing her half of the week. That's hard. If you're a caring father, I know some aren't.
Her mum's a pain, we get on mostly but since we split up she has her moments calling me a shit dad and all that stuff. I know i'm not, but when someone tells you this stuff you can't help but question yourself. Led to anxiety and depression before I met my current Mrs.

This year the little one's been off school 35 days. Since September. I can count on one hand the days she would have had off it was upto me. I've spoken to school and even asked for advice from a solicitors and it turns out i don't really have any rights and if I tried to get custody i'd lose. The whole thing has affected her school work etc.

Jumping back to me and the Mrs. We've not had a great time of it since lockdown TBH. Shouldn't have got married really. And now she's desperate for a baby, but I am now thinking I don't want to be in the same situation again. Told the Mrs. She said it means she won't ever have a baby. But I said she can, we can go our separate ways.
 
Mum died peacefully at home yesterday afternoon. I had to nip to the chemist for morphine and when i got back my daughter said mum was dying. It was quite an emotional moment but as she drew her last breath i held her hand and told her i loved her. I think she held on for me

RIP mum x
You were there, mate...best way possible.
 

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