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Dodgy Gangster said:
97mins of fitness work - job done now down to the real business.

Refs / VAR getting some great training in too and seem pretty much up to their normal levels already

Scousers handball - no pen ....... City handball - stonewall pen
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In the City after match show we heard how these calls are " subjective" from what little I saw they didn't even mention the handball by LiVARpool in the box.
 
The slaughtered lamb said:
No it isn’t. I’m more disappointed to lose because it’s the dippers, than say Leicester, but it’s not a trophy, it’s part of our pre-season.
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It is definitely a trophy, it’s recognised by UEFA as a legitimate trophy and every single club in Europe counts it or their equivalent in their honours lists.

That’s why we were the “Fourmidables” in 2018-19, because we are the only football team in English football history to win all four domestic trophies in one season.

Fans only say it’s not a trophy when they don’t win it. We were all laughing at Liverpool fans saying exactly that in 2019.
 
Psychedelic Casual said:
It is definitely a trophy, it’s recognised by UEFA as a legitimate trophy and every single club in Europe counts it or their equivalent in their honours lists.
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They’re welcome to but it’s a one off game at the beginning of a season that’s used by teams for fitness. UEFA also think the international friendlies are a trophy now too.
 
Yesterday it was all:

Time to shut them up.
About time we dicked them.
Hope we play a strong team.
4-1 City!! Etc.
Klopp and his excuses already.

Today: Just a friendly. Even, a good omen.


Time will tell. But it's certainly put wind in their sails unfortunately.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Do they think they've just won the league? Bloody hell, I've never seen a player and fans celebrate a friendly win like that, genuinely embarrassing. Imagine being them. When's the parade? For contrast, leicester won it last year for only the second time in their history, first in 50 years, they acted accordingly, similar to any other pre-season game with a trophy attached, they didn't act like they've just won something significant. Make no mistake, they're celebrating this wildly because its City, they know deep down we're the best around, if any no mark scouser ever comes out with an oh so witty remark about not caring about City, no rivalry, our titles mean nothing etc, just point them towards their ridiculously over the top celebrations today and ask them to repeat that. We're deep under their skin.

They're so so desperate to compare Nunez with Haaland. Undeniably a good day for him but he missed a 1v1, had a free header that was off-target and fortunate to end with a penalty and then scored a tap in in the 97th minute after some truly dreadful marking from Dias, not exactly frightening if that's him "arrived".

I expected more from some of our players, especially going forward but overall it went largely as expected, we're severely undercooked. they looked on it, considerably ahead of us and fully deserved the win.

Doesn't matter for today but we're a week away from the first game and we're miles off it. Why did Phillips not get on? He should have started really but to not even get on is just weird, Rodri looked fucked for the last half an hour and Phillips needs minutes. I presume he's not injured as he wouldn't be on the bench so I can only imagine he's way off getting it if he's not even making an appearance.

Pleased for Alvarez getting his first goal. Energy he gives us is very foden-like. Its currently early foden but I expect him to improve quickly. I don't think we will see anywhere near his full potential for a while though until he's fully settled, scored a few and feels like a key player so getting his first goal should help push him on towards that. Haaland was encouraging despite 2 bad misses. great movement, a firing kdb picks him out a few times today, foden in instead of Grealish provides for him too. Still slightly fear we will be too heavily reliant on Foden and Mahrez this season out wide.

Not much to take from that for the established squad members, it's another 60-90 minutes for most of them and it's badly needed. The starting 11 today will be very similar to West ham next week I suspect, Just have to hope our superior quality can get us through the first few weeks with little damage in terms of dropped points before the fitness comes. I know it's worked for us in the past but it's still less than ideal playing just 3 friendlies and having. Shorter pre-season than others. the world cup is likely to destroy any benefit later in the season our usual late comeback and slow build up gives us, I also think there's less chance of putting one of our famous long runs together because of it too, so we need to be ready next week.

Also worth noting we completely outsung them until the last 10 minutes despite the fact we were never even leading that game. All you heard from them was a truly pathetic and disgraceful boo for the national anthem which should be talked about more in the media and then them celebrating the friendly win at the end like a first ever league title.
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Good summary, and although I’m sure it’s been mentioned elsewhere too, but we only play league games on a weekend for the first few weeks of the season, that’ll definitely help in getting up to speed. We just somehow need to get the 3 points against the hammers and we will be laughing.
 
Fitness still looks an issue which is a concern and when Kev and Joao are bad they are BAD! Really needed that LB situation sorted sooner though, and wouldn’t mind another wide player but that’s obviously not going to happen. Also we just can’t beat them fuckers in a one off game can we!?
 
Cambo said:
I don’t like the way some of us underplay results (performances) like this. This is more than a pre season friendly. Whilst it’s not the PL, CL, FA or LC, it is as a Cup to commence the season and is legitimate silverware. The excuses / mitigating circumstances that we roll out don’t mask this fact.

City chose the pre season schedule this year, as we did last year, and if we’re undercooked and not prepared then that’s on us. The end may justify the means (as people will say we lost this last year but won the PL), but let’s not kid ourselves that we didn’t want to win this and that it’s merely a friendly for fitness.

Pep played arguably his strongest team available today and whilst some positives can be taken, there are also a few concerns that, if we’re objectively assessing, are issues that this manager, team and some of the players have had over multiple seasons that seem to hurt us in “one off” matches if not over the course of a season.

The possession/conversion stats. Liverpool with less possession (43% to our 57%) had 4 shots on target to our 8 and ended up winning 3:1. They’ve converted 75% of their shots on target to our 12.5%.
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Get with it mate - it's a "meaningless friendly" now. This is no place for rational analysis.
 
Our midfield was the biggest problem yesterday, poor passing and looking lost that we actually had a striker in the side, they didn't seem to know what to do.
Kev was awful, that shot in to the side netting summed his performance up, Bernardo absolutely invisible, Grealish nothing different from last season, Mahrez, very poor, and Rodri looking totally unfit.
We will have to get used to having Haaland in this side asap, the midfield is key
 
I feel the main reason Grealish and Mahrez on the wings did not work is because we needed proper ovelapping fullbacks who can whip a good cross in, Cancelo is the man for that on the right so is wasted on the left, Walker is lightning but not great in terms of a final ball in, again emphasises the need for a proper attacking left back (Cucarella).
 
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