Marc Cucurella

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JewelZee said:
2 RBs, one who can't defend.
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Bit harsh that mate - against most he’s fine, but against the very best he’s definitely exposed and comes up short.

Horses for courses, and Cancelo will have his games where he makes the difference for us - but being able to play Walker on the right and an actual left back who can stand up to the best on the left will give us a complete squad in my view.

I’d fancy us against anyone then - Madrid and Liverpool included.
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Hahahaha. Did you support Chelsea or something 15 years ago when they were buying a shiny new toy every week of the transfer window ?

The fact you think you know more than Txiki and co about how to negotiate a transfer is an embarrassment.

How do you know we are now ‘having to find a new full back’ !? Do tell me ??

Maybe Pep (as he has stated more than once) is happy to go with what we have. Don’t tell me you think you know more than Pep too ?

Moron.
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Moron calling others moron. Ironic.
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
The last sentence implies you have no idea whatsoever how transfers work. Leave it to experts like Txiki and stick to your laptop fella.
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Me thinking it should have been possible to sign a fullback before the season starts implies I have no idea whatsoever how transfers work and I should stick to my laptop instead, alright mate. I think Txiki is great, and that he has done a great job for us over the years. But only a complete moron would think starting the season with only 2 senior fullbacks is ideal and was something impossible to avoid or something the club couldnt have done better.
 
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Vester said:
What difference does who we get make to my argument?
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Because if we start the season with two of the best fullbacks in the league and have enough cover in the squad by the end of the transfer window I'd say toure overreacting.
 
Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Bit harsh that mate - against most he’s fine, but against the very best he’s definitely exposed and comes up short.

Horses for courses, and Cancelo will have his games where he makes the difference for us - but being able to play Walker on the right and an actual left back who can stand up to the best on the left will give us a complete squad in my view.

I’d fancy us against anyone then - Madrid and Liverpool included.
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I was being economical with my words. I've been posting like a mad man, lol. I've said Cancelo is fine for 85 to 90% of our opponents. I've also said he can be magical offensively when he's in form. I meant can't defend - against high end forwards.
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Hahahaha. Did you support Chelsea or something 15 years ago when they were buying a shiny new toy every week of the transfer window ?

The fact you think you know more than Txiki and co about how to negotiate a transfer is an embarrassment.

How do you know we are now ‘having to find a new full back’ !? Do tell me ??

Maybe Pep (as he has stated more than once) is happy to go with what we have. Don’t tell me you think you know more than Pep too ?

Moron.
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Pep never said he was happy he said he would go with what he had been given if he had to but it would be nice to have a left back.

In Pep speak that is as strong as it gets.
 
JewelZee said:
I was being economical with my words. I've been posting like a mad man, lol. I've said Cancelo is fine for 85 to 90% of our opponents. I've also said he can be magical offensively when he's in form. I meant can't defend - against high end forwards.
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Hahaha - I know the feeling mate!

And yeah - Cancelo has so much upside to his game, but against the very best as a defender he’s simply not good enough.

That needs addressing - and I fully expect us to have a proper left back in place by the end of the window.

Anything less would be negligent.
 
moomba said:
Because if we start the season with two of the best fullbacks in the league and have enough cover in the squad by the end of the transfer window I'd say toure overreacting.
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Then why did you say I should wait and see who we sign before I complain, when you now changed your argument to "2 senior fullbacks is enough to start the season with as long as we sign someone before the window closes"? Your arguments are incoherent, and doesnt make any sense. But alright, you might think starting the season with 5 senior defenders fighting for 4 places (Cancelo, Walker, Ake, Stones, Dias (Laporte is injuried since last season still)) is fine, nothing to worry about or any reason that signing a fullback before the season started should have been a priority. I disagree and think we could and should have sorted this out sooner. That doesnt mean I'm writing the season off, or think Txiki is useless, just that I think we would be in a much better position if we had handled this situation with a bit more urgency. Lets agree to disagree.
 
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Both Liverpool's full backs aren't great defensively either. In fact there are currently no full backs who can combine both roles to a really high standard
 
MillsyTheMosher said:
Hahahaha. Did you support Chelsea or something 15 years ago when they were buying a shiny new toy every week of the transfer window ?

The fact you think you know more than Txiki and co about how to negotiate a transfer is an embarrassment.

How do you know we are now ‘having to find a new full back’ !? Do tell me ??

Maybe Pep (as he has stated more than once) is happy to go with what we have. Don’t tell me you think you know more than Pep too ?

Moron.
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Weren’t you telling us Pep didn’t want to lose Zinchenko and preferred him to Cucurella?
 
Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Hahaha - I know the feeling mate!

And yeah - Cancelo has so much upside to his game, but against the very best as a defender he’s simply not good enough.

That needs addressing - and I fully expect us to have a proper left back in place by the end of the window.

Anything less would be negligent.
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Might be wrong, but for me this is a simplistic way of thinking about a Pep defence, especially after 6 years of watching Pep's City and listening to his interviews.

The fundament of a Pep's way of defending is having a lot of possession and having a build-up play good enough to deal with intense high-pressing. For that purpose you need defenders who are great on the ball and brave in possession. Many seem to think that if we have another Walker at LB, we'd be perfect in the big games defensively wise. That's dumb. Another FB who is technically limited and chooses only save options would be deadly for a Pep build-up play and for our possession- based game. If Walker attempts to do what Cancelo does in our build-up play and in the opposition's half, he would make so many mistakes that people would question his value for the team. He knows his limitations and plays safe, unimaginative passes. If the other FB is like that, a Pep team wouldn't be a Pep team.

But couldn't we find a player who can do what Cancelo does for our build-up play (most passes in the whole league and most touches over a season in PL history, no less) and is more solid in defence? Well, where's that FB? If Cucu was that, we'd pay 80m to have him. He would be the best FB in the world by far, and one of the best players period.

If you hear or read 'Cancelo can't defend', you are dealing with a fan who watches Pep's City for 6 years now and doesn't understand how we win trophies. If we buy a FB good enough to start at LB in big games, then Cancelo will be used at RB, unless he is off form like in the final month or two in 20/21. He isn't perefect at all, he makes mistakes, etc. but he's been highly important to our build-up play since 2020, 2-3 months aside.
 
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Nicholas van Whatsisface said:
Hahaha - I know the feeling mate!

And yeah - Cancelo has so much upside to his game, but against the very best as a defender he’s simply not good enough.

That needs addressing - and I fully expect us to have a proper left back in place by the end of the window.

Anything less would be negligent.
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"Anything less would be negligent".
Sorry mate you cannot say that on here it implies criticism of those upstairs. I'd lock your doors and change your username..
 
razman said:


Repeated Brief from Brighton then
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They’re in a strong position apart from the fact they’ve got a player there who wants to leave and has made that known.

He’s even got his agent talking to the most well-known (Twitter) journalist spoon-feeding him information to get a move through.

Bloom looks like the little tough man who took on the City big boys and won but in reality he’s going to be left with an unhappy player whose agent has a lot of the same type of talent on his books all while making other players and their reps think twice about going there as a stepping stone (like Cucurella did) if they’re not going to be allowed to leave for a reasonable price (£50m is too much given they paid £16m last Summer and his relative inexperience).

All a bit short-sighted IMO because he’s pissed off about a £30m bid and a transfer request. Just because they value him at £50m doesn’t mean that we will but they seem to have taken the £30m bid as a pisstake which is strange behaviour. Again IMO.
 
razman said:


Repeated Brief from Brighton then
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Good for them but not 1 journalist’s is willing to acknowledge the elephant in the room…an unhappy player. Keep him by all means but in the long run it won’t work out. Guarantee he is sold for a lesser amount within 18 months.

Brighton can claim the fantasy victory for now. The reality is they will have damaged their recruitment process and club image to future players. Agents talk.
 
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