Gas & Electricity

[Stiff Little Wingers]

Kelvin Mackenzie is a fucking bellend and how the **** is still given any airtime is beyond me. He’s top of the list of pricks who don’t deserve to have a job. And if he wasn’t in employment, let’s see if the mouthy fuckwit could afford his energy bills then.

Cannot disagree with any of that. The reason he is given airtime is because there are many stupid cuts who will lap it up

 

[yatesy94.]

I'm sure prisoners will have the heating on 24/7 during the coldest months yet millions of law-abiding tax payers have to scrimp/save and desperately calculate when they can put their cooker on or have the heating on. Fcking disgrace this country - sh*t times ahead.

P.s. I Should've planned ahead and spent 3 months in Thailand but I'm a div....

 

[Blue Maverick]

Most people go in to the public sector because it's considered a ‘job for life’ secure, fair enough. Safe in that knowledge that the government will always stump up the cash, come rain or shine - no lay offs, no redundancies - pensions, holidays, the government put taxes up on the private sector to endlessly fund it all - blah blah...you know how it works, well, new news!...the banks are empty and were all in it together now, even you lot - and we're all fucked! apart from the guy on 100k who has the gall to announce on a post about fuel poverty? you could not make it up - like some sick voyeur, lapping up the misery he casually floats above., removed from.

I’m still trying to work out if you are for it against the public sector? Is this a sarcastic post or do really have no fucking clue?

 

[denislawsbackheel]

I’m still trying to work out if you are for it against the public sector? Is this a sarcastic post or do really have no fucking clue?

He is an utter dickhead.
A nurse becomes a nurse because it’s a job for life. Only an utter **** thinks that.

 

[Blue Maverick]

He is an utter dickhead.
A nurse becomes a nurse because it’s a job for life. Only an utter **** thinks that.

Thought as much because nearly every point is wrong, is he “special”?

 

[meltonblue]

Most people go in to the public sector because it's considered a ‘job for life’ secure, fair enough. Safe in that knowledge that the government will always stump up the cash, come rain or shine - no lay offs, no redundancies - pensions, holidays, the government put taxes up on the private sector to endlessly fund it all - blah blah...you know how it works, well, new news!...the banks are empty and were all in it together now, even you lot - and we're all fucked! apart from the guy on 100k who has the gall to announce on a post about fuel poverty? you could not make it up - like some sick voyeur, lapping up the misery he casually floats above., removed from.

And what did I “announce” on a post about fuel poverty? It was that I personally want to see an increase in the income tax rate for both the high and additional earners.

That’s why I asked you how much you earn as you are seemingly against any tax rises whatsoever. I don’t understand that position if you are, as you suggested, struggling yourself.

Why wouldn’t you want additional burden put on those that can afford it, particularly with the disparity of wealth we have nowadays being at the levels it’s at and the challenges we’ve got with our front line services even before this additional challenge we’re going to have over winter? (Out of interest, have you considered working in public services yourself if you think the benefits are so great btw, there is a staffing shortage at the minute? ;))

Do you not get the stupidity of saying I’m “casually floating above it” and yet you’re the one arguing I shouldn’t be paying more tax…? (I can assure I’m not casually floating at all, but I do have enough self awareness to realise how insignificant that is compared to others btw)

If your argument was that the current government couldn’t be trusted to spend that additional tax revenue, particularly in directing it to those that really need it, then I could get the point to an extent. Even if you said that increasing the tax revenue will reduce spending from that group even further and have an even greater potential impact on inflation, I’d get it. There’s also the argument that the government have other mechanisms they could use instead that I’d get too.

Instead, you’ve somehow come up with a position is completely nonsensical and just comes across as you having a chip on your shoulder that’s rendered you incapable of logical thought.

 

[hampshireblue]

Most people go in to the public sector because it's considered a ‘job for life’ secure, fair enough. Safe in that knowledge that the government will always stump up the cash, come rain or shine - no lay offs, no redundancies - pensions, holidays, the government put taxes up on the private sector to endlessly fund it all - blah blah...you know how it works, well, new news!...the banks are empty and were all in it together now, even you lot - and we're all fucked! apart from the guy on 100k who has the gall to announce on a post about fuel poverty? you could not make it up - like some sick voyeur, lapping up the misery he casually floats above., removed from.

I was in the public sector till we were privatised in the early 2000s. The training took 3+ years with weekly exams and the chance of being fired if you failed more than one. It also involved being relocated from Manchester to West London, with the accompanying tripling of the mortgage, and then another relocation to Hampshire. It's not always the bed of roses you suggest.

 

[west didsblue]

I'm sure prisoners will have the heating on 24/7 during the coldest months yet millions of law-abiding tax payers have to scrimp/save and desperately calculate when they can put their cooker on or have the heating on. Fcking disgrace this country - sh*t times ahead.

P.s. I Should've planned ahead and spent 3 months in Thailand but I'm a div....

Go and hold up a bank then. You’ll either end up with plenty of cash to pay your bills or 5 years in a nice warm cell. Win win.

 

[paulchapo]

Well, there's "pain" and then there is impossible. There is absolutely no way at all that domestic or commercial outlets can sustain such bills. The whole idea is ludicrous.

What happens when thousands ( At least) all become unemployed because businesses close because even working 24/7 the bills outstrip the earnings? Then all the people who become homeless because they can't afford the rent/mortgage and the bills? It's like they want it to happen,it's bizarre.

 

[Bill Walker]

What happens when thousands ( At least) all become unemployed

Well here down under we have a massive shortage of skilled and unskilled workers, numbers of immigrants is going to be seriously upped very soon the Gov have announced, there are more job vacancies than people on the dole.

So you can all come here :). Yes we do have a public health system called medicare for which we pay 1.5% of our wages.

It's winter here, Darwin today is 31deg... Cairns 28deg...Brisbane is 22deg... Sydney 18deg... Melbourne 16deg... Hobart 14deg so you can see the further south you go the cooler it gets BUT, nobody is freezing their balls off. :)

Plus the state Gov will pay a lot towards your solar panels on your roof, being as there are lots of sunny days you can sell leccy back to the grid !!!

 

[paulchapo]

Well here down under we have a massive shortage of skilled and unskilled workers, numbers of immigrants is going to be seriously upped very soon the Gov have announced, there are more job vacancies than people on the dole.

So you can all come here :). Yes we do have a public health system called medicare for which we pay 1.5% of our wages.

It's winter here, Darwin today is 31deg... Cairns 28deg...Brisbane is 22deg... Sydney 18deg... Melbourne 16deg... Hobart 14deg so you can see the further south you go the cooler it gets BUT, nobody is freezing their balls off. :)

Plus the state Gov will pay a lot towards your solar panels on your roof, being as there are lots of sunny days you can sell leccy back to the grid !!!

A bit far to get to the match lol.

I was in Aussie in1985 working onboard the QE2 on its world cruise. Off the top of my head, Sydney, Hobart, Freemantle, Perth, Melbourne and Adelaide.

 

[Bill Walker]

A bit far to get to the match lol.

I was in Aussie in1985 working onboard the QE2 on its world cruise. Off the top of my head, Sydney, Hobart, Freemantle, Perth, Melbourne and Adelaide.

There are pro's and cons to everything I guess :) I do miss going to watch City.

 

[paulchapo]

There are pro's and cons to everything I guess :) I do miss going to watch City.

Yes it has its faults but is still generally a good day out. We had a kid at school, John Grimshsw who was City mad. His family emigrated to Oz about 1970, I often wonder if he's still there

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Yes it has its faults but is still generally a good day out. We had a kid at school, John Grimshsw who was City mad. His family emigrated to Oz about 1970, I often wonder if he's still there

He’s called William Walker these days.

 

[DenisLawBackHeel74]

Well here down under we have a massive shortage of skilled and unskilled workers, numbers of immigrants is going to be seriously upped very soon the Gov have announced, there are more job vacancies than people on the dole.

So you can all come here :). Yes we do have a public health system called medicare for which we pay 1.5% of our wages.

It's winter here, Darwin today is 31deg... Cairns 28deg...Brisbane is 22deg... Sydney 18deg... Melbourne 16deg... Hobart 14deg so you can see the further south you go the cooler it gets BUT, nobody is freezing their balls off. :)

Plus the state Gov will pay a lot towards your solar panels on your roof, being as there are lots of sunny days you can sell leccy back to the grid !!!

Bit off topic @Bill Walker , but I have relatives in Perth WA, and plan on visiting in July/Aug 2024 (lads summer hols). I’m thinking of spending a couple of weeks somewhere warmer such as Darwin prior to heading down to Perth…….any recommendations on travel/hotels etc.

No idea where you live in Oz but any advice appreciated.

 

[I'm With Stupid]

Malaysia has a huge oil and gas industry, I am fairly sure they are a net exporter. In fact I think much of the public sector is funded by the money that Petronas brings in, hence it's also a low tax economy. Hopefully will be out there next year at some point enjoying Char Kway Teow and other delights, assuming I can still afford the flights!

Just did a quick Google and yeah, they're pretty big in gas. Oil not so much. The UK is the opposite. Both have fuck all in the way of coal.

I'm having to fly via Saudi Arabia this Christmas because flights were so expensive. 550 quid. The next cheapest were all over 800.

 

[Bill Walker]

Bit off topic @Bill Walker , but I have relatives in Perth WA, and plan on visiting in July/Aug 2024 (lads summer hols). I’m thinking of spending a couple of weeks somewhere warmer such as Darwin prior to heading down to Perth…….any recommendations on travel/hotels etc.

No idea where you live in Oz but any advice appreciated.

Perth is a bit chilly in July, high teens, maybe 18deg or so.
If you want to go somewhere warm I'd recommend Cairns. There's more to do that Darwin, it's more touristy.
You can visit the Great barrier Reef, Whitsunday Islands, Cairns has a really nice vibe. (Do the cable car to Kuranda Train Station).
Lots of good hotels in Cairns as well as self catering apartments.

Most of us fly in Oz as its as big as America. Jetstar seems best prices for domestic flights........... Although Bonza is now advertising the cheapest flights.

 

[Blue Maverick]

Go and hold up a bank then. You’ll either end up with plenty of cash to pay your bills or 5 years in a nice warm cell. Win win.

Viz wants its top tip back

 

[BlueMoonday]

kelvin Mackenzie saying there has to be pain

He is a useful idiot for the tories. Funny that the govt had money to pay out huge contracts to their mates during Covid.

I've seen plenty of comments from tory baby boomers on twitter telling us to tighten our belts. Typical tory response from Giffords. They are middle class sheep who are happy to act like c*nts all in support of tories whilst helping the UK's richest (a wealth these middle class Giffords would never reach) get richer at the cost of themselves.

 

[shemnel]

Ouch, Russia just switched off Nord Stream 1 ("maintenance")