The British Monarchy

Octavian said:
You’ve literally said they do fuck all, it’s been pointed out they make a profit for the country and you say “whoop de do”.

You’re not going to change your mind so might as well finish this convo
Click to expand...
Good. I'm sick of seeing your stomping around these Queenie threads telling others how they should bow down to the fucking royals and abusing members that don't agree with your incessant posts.
Profit my arse. Stole their wealth and kept most of it.
 
stonerblue said:
Good. I'm sick of seeing your stomping around these Queenie threads telling others how they should bow down to the fucking royals and abusing members that don't agree with your incessant posts.
Profit my arse. Stole their wealth and kept most of it.
Click to expand...
Never said anyone should bow.

Sick of wankers like you making shit up and saying they do fuck all.

Won’t respond to your next message
 
stonerblue said:
Good. I'm sick of seeing your stomping around these Queenie threads telling others how they should bow down to the fucking royals and abusing members that don't agree with your incessant posts.
Profit my arse. Stole their wealth and kept most of it.
Click to expand...
He's been here a year or so
probably been on in numerous guises and banned.
 
stonerblue said:
Good. I'm sick of seeing your stomping around these Queenie threads telling others how they should bow down to the fucking royals and abusing members that don't agree with your incessant posts.
Profit my arse. Stole their wealth and kept most of it.
Click to expand...
Makes me laugh all this they make money bullshit, it's a complete lie.

I would imagine the Premier league alone brings in more tourist cash than all the royal PLCs put together.
 
Last edited:
stonerblue said:
Good. I'm sick of seeing your stomping around these Queenie threads telling others how they should bow down to the fucking royals and abusing members that don't agree with your incessant posts.
Profit my arse. Stole their wealth and kept most of it.
Click to expand...
Most rich families stole their wealth at some point or other.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
If I had carte blanche to reshape the constitution then I think I would abolish the monarchy, or at the very least make them wholly extraneous to the political process.

I think our political system is ineffectual, undemocratic and anachronistic and it would be intellectually dishonest of me to exclude the presence of a hereditary system within that equation, as it plainly is.

The stability that a monarchy has provided must also have contributed to the oscillation within our political system and institutions which has undoubtedly (imo) precipitated our decline as a nation. One only has to look at the pitiful quality of politicians across the political spectrum today compared to a generation ago to appreciate how stark that decline is.

The whole thing needs ripping up and starting again, and the position of a hereditary head of state has to be part of that process, as it has to be part of the problem. It’s difficult to argue otherwise.
Click to expand...
I would add to that disestablishment of the Church of England's status and privileges.
 
"The stability that a monarchy has provided must also have contributed to the oscillation within our political system and institutions which has undoubtedly (imo) precipitated our decline as a nation. One only has to look at the pitiful quality of politicians across the political spectrum today compared to a generation ago to appreciate how stark that decline is."

GDM
Do you not think that would also apply to the executive branch in the U.S. , with the polarization there, the quality in particular of MAGA candidates, yet they have reached this point in significantly less time (250 years) and having ditched a monarchy?
I'm certainly not a rampant royalist, nevertheless it is an interesting debate
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
If I had carte blanche to reshape the constitution then I think I would abolish the monarchy, or at the very least make them wholly extraneous to the political process.

I think our political system is ineffectual, undemocratic and anachronistic and it would be intellectually dishonest of me to exclude the presence of a hereditary system within that equation, as it plainly is.

The stability that a monarchy has provided must also have contributed to the oscillation within our political system and institutions which has undoubtedly (imo) precipitated our decline as a nation. One only has to look at the pitiful quality of politicians across the political spectrum today compared to a generation ago to appreciate how stark that decline is.

The whole thing needs ripping up and starting again, and the position of a hereditary head of state has to be part of that process, as it has to be part of the problem. It’s difficult to argue otherwise.
Click to expand...

The Queen was head of State for effectively two generations.

I would question why you believe her position was the cause of the decline in the quality of politicians over the past thirty years, if such a decline wasn’t evident during the previous forty? Empirically, if you’re looking for the cause of a trend, the constant variables would tend to be overlooked, so again I can’t agree with your suggestion that stability is the cause of a sharp, recent and seemingly accelerating decline.

Personally, I think that having a head of State who has no political ambitions is a major positive.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Unread Posts

Don't have an account? Register now and see fewer ads!

SIGN UP
Back
Top