Pep Guardiola - 2022/23

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I disagree. Our lineup was more attacking than it usually is at Anfield with the inclusion of Gundogan imo.
Disjointed. No point having attacking players on the pitch but deciding to nullify their threat and the teams cohesion. Kev might aswell stayed at home than play on the right.

He has an inferiority complex when it come to liverpool and anfield. It’s not a dig just a fact.

We can’t win there.
 
The mentality going into this game was wrong. He has the team feeling inferior before a ball is kicked. The use of players showed Liverpool we feared them. Of course we tweak most games but in this case it was because we had no believe we could win at anfield.
Spot on, and imo Pep won’t win the champions league with us until he becomes a **** before these big games, stop fucking praising the opposition Pep and there managers and talk up your own fucking team, Klopp talks us up as a backhanded compliment because he then slags us off about the money, Pep doesn’t do this before big games and it’s his weakness
 
He can be all that but he also can have the occasional brain farts. Especially when it comes to anfield. He sent a message to the players today before a ball was kicked that he didn’t believe they could win without tactical tweaks.

It is not the first nor the last time we see him change a winning system for fear of the opposition and occasion.
Its his Achilles heel.
 
Sicking of him overthinking games against these lot.

Since the 3 losses in 2018 (Pl & CL) that's 9 times in the league we've played them and he has genuinely overthought everyone. We've lost 2 of them. What a ****. Not.

Funny thing is we would/should have been 1 nil up in both of the 2 we lost if not for controversial referee decisions.
With today, what's the point of playing on for fouls on both sides if a foul is then overruled if you score?
 
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The mentality going into this game was wrong. He has the team feeling inferior before a ball is kicked. The use of players showed Liverpool we feared them. Of course we tweak most games but in this case it was because we had no believe we could win at anfield.
Keeping our shape/formation 4-3-3 and changing the game plan according to what team we are facing is completely fine.

Changing our shape/formation to nullify another teams game plan is wrong in my opinion, especially in a big game and Pep is too susceptible to this.

Honestly if we played our best formation were our players are most comfortably and we get beat fair play to the other team, but far to often in big games it feels like we're watching a completely different team to our City.

I don't understand the need to complicate things in big games, overloading the players with instructions, playing a formation that the players have to learn in-game off the cuff, playing your players out of position, add all of these things along with a highly-charged atmosphere, opposition players kicking lumps out of us and notoriously dodgy refereeing decisions how the heck are the players supposed to play a fluid game.
 
Disjointed. No point having attacking players on the pitch but deciding to nullify their threat and the teams cohesion. Kev might aswell stayed at home than play on the right.

He has an inferiority complex when it come to liverpool and anfield. It’s not a dig just a fact.

We can’t win there.
Not just Liverpool. In any big game where the stakes are high.
 
See my post, we controlled it until the players decided they wanted it to be a basketball match

same thing against Madrid last season. Game management is a real problem for some of our players

99% of the time we are too good so it doesn’t matter, but it’s a common theme that’s never gone away

the other thing that’s laughable is people on here questioning Pep and his tactics, he’s probably the greatest football mind there has ever been
The greatest football mind can make mistakes too as he did in the Cl final and at other times in CL and fans are entitled to have an opinion and question the tactics especially when they're questionable as they were imo. The whole object of football forum is lost if you can't express how you feel about your team and manager, it doesn't mean you're calling for manager's head
 
So it was clear we planned to attack down their right. Part of what held us back in that was Ake. Superb defender but he's not going to bomb on and his passing is limited... Why the fuck didn't Cancelo get any time on the left and then just shift the rest of the defensive lads across one? A right side of Milner, Gomez and Elliot and we left them comfortable allowing Ake and Phil pass it back and forth between themselves all game.

How many times does tinkering have to not work vs Liverpool before we get to see our strongest 4-3-3 lineup against them
 
Keeping our shape/formation 4-3-3 and changing the game plan according to what team we are facing is completely fine.

Changing our shape/formation to nullify another teams game plan is wrong in my opinion, especially in a big game and Pep is too susceptible to this.

Honestly if we played our best formation were our players are most comfortably and we get beat fair play to the other team, but far to often in big games it feels like we're watching a completely different team to our City.

I don't understand the need to complicate things in big games, overloading the players with instructions, playing a formation that the players have to learn in-game off the cuff, playing your players out of position, add all of these things along with a highly-charged atmosphere, opposition players kicking lumps out of us and notoriously dodgy refereeing decisions how the heck are the players supposed to play a fluid game.
We played the same system last week against Southampton but with Cancelo on the left and Foden on the right

was that wrong too or has the result today determined that he got it wrong and over thought it ?

this one’s on the players , who played really well today ?

I thought Bernado was great and Foden had a good game

but the rest were way off their best , Kevin had numerous chances to effect the game but chose the wrong option

Cancelo was very poor and compounded it by defending like a schoolboy on more than one occasion

Haaland was poor and missed a few half chances we created

Rodri got caught napping on the ball a few times and seemed to think he had more time than he actually had
 
Love the bloke but no idea why he wouldn’t start Grealish and changed things so much after hammering Utd a few weeks ago.

Grealish is perfect for these games with a hostile atmosphere because he gets his foot on the ball, slows things down and/or buys a free kick. It’s vital and I’m surprised Pep didn’t use that today.

Seemed we have no real idea on how to attack which is madness when you have Foden, KDB, Haaland and Bernie on the pitch.
 
Pep didn’t really help today. Tactics in big games like this are causing issues. No need to change it. One of the reasons I don’t see us winning champs league. Sadly

Long balls hurt us all the time & we know the teams that do it but we don’t adjust.

Still keep pep for ever but cup final type games v teams like this we will always struggle :-(
 
Had a mare today with that line up/tactic. Liverpool have been suspect down their right all season so we change formation/tactics to attack their left side…. Honestly wtf was he thinking.
 
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