Liverpool (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

[Mr Blue Stuff]

Got what we deserved, fuck all.

All on Pep, far too passive in the first half and Bernie wasted out wide.

De Bruyne and Cancelo were absolutely shocking, both in terms of positional play and quality on the ball.

That Liverpool team was an embarrassment and they beat us because both Pep and the players thought they were playing the occasion rather than the game.

Only Phil and Eddie comes out of that game with any credit.

What's Pep fucking waiting for, Alvarez with two to go?

He treats them with far too much respect.

Loads of respect for you Tolm. One of the few posters that’s talks a lot of sense and an obvious true blue, but a bit of perspective. We WILL win the league and hopefully more and that’s not me being arrogant. I reckon Pep recognises that over the occasion. Of course he’d love to win this fixture, wouldn’t we all, but it’s not the be all and end all. This will be a distant memory next week (maybe with the exception of those that went). DeBruyne and Cancelo were not at it, so we’re a few more, but these lads will win us championships, or so I tell me 10 yr old lad.
Class side, bad day at the office (to a weird breed) but no doubt in my mind that Kev, Portuguese Joe and the rest of team will be lifting metal in May and possibly sooner.
Remember rainy nights away at Lincoln. We’re blessed with this lot whilst them weird cunts over the road and up the 62 chase 4th and 5th dreaming they were us.

 

[coolcity]

More I watch that ‘foul’ more I agree with Micah they had to find an angle to disallow it. Taylor’s angle it doesn’t look a foul, only slowed down from one angle did it suit the agenda. There are four subsequent passes I think and Alisson spills ball. May as well not have a ref on pitch and do it all remote with drone cameras.

Exactly, that's my problem with it. What's the point of letting the ref let the game flow and as such, letting a "foul" go, if it's going to be pulled back later by VAR?

If they're going to decide what's right and proper, you might as well have a video panel analyse the entire 90 minutes to check when a foul is a foul, a corner is a corner and so on.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Missing the point.

May or maybe not a foul, doesn't matter as the Ref saw it and allowed play to go on.
This incident happens all the time all over the pitch and is never pulled up.

We broke and shot, keeper saved but spilled and we scored from the outcome.

How fucking far do you want to go back to look for reason to disallow a goal.

It's selective refereeing which is fucking nonsense!

It was a foul on Fabinho and it’s just been confirmed on MOTD2 that it would have been ruled out for the challenge on Alisson too.

 

[Blu1]

Really surprised jack wasn’t used today. Target Milner & create the usual Jack havoc was badly needed. After His last few games he deserved to play today.

 

[chaddblue]

It was a foul on Fabinho and it’s just been confirmed on MOTD2 that it would have been ruled out for the challenge on Alisson too.

How would they know that?

 

[Blu1]

Just realised I forgot how if feels to lose ! Lol

Let’s hope the boys re focus & start smashing teams again starting next Saturday

 

[thanatos]

Really surprised jack wasn’t used today. Target Milner & create the usual Jack havoc was badly needed. After His last few games he deserved to play today.

The benefits of Jack are twofold. You get his ball retention and progression, as well as Foden on his better RHS. Not sure at all why he was left off, he’s clearly one of our better players at the moment.

 

[xgorton]

Still don't understand when we we're on the break down the left the twat stops the game to book klopp,could have waited then booked him.

 

[Millwallawayveteran1988]

have calmed down a bit and realised thats only their second win in 5 seasons against us in the league

Yeah. Still a tad annoying though given how shit they have been this season.

Why did we leave Salah on his own with Cancelo at a set piece? We had a warning earlier in the game.
Against top teams you get punished for basic tactical errors and I stick by what I have said before that we wont win the CL under Pep for this reason.

Too many bottled it, Bernard has the heart of a lion though.

Not being mard, just my assessment.

Still a great side and we will win the league.

I’m not sure who authorised that. It was absolute madness. I wouldn’t leave cancelo against Bony on his own never mind Salah! Pep should have had his eye on that.

 

[coolcity]

It didn’t go to a Liverpool player, Bernardo gets it and plays it to KDB.

I kind of get the argument around he was letting similar ones go all game. That’s the only one that VAR was able to look at though and I thought it was a pretty obvious foul. In terms of phase of play, I don’t think it was far enough back in the phase to not consider it.

Had they scored a goal like that and it had been given, I’d have been very annoyed.

I don't think it could be described as "pretty obvious". Sky had to look at it in slo-mo from half a dozen angles to find one that actually showed the shirt pull, and if the ref can't spot it in real time then it can't be a "clear and obvious error", in which case VAR shouldn't be involved.

I don't think even Liverpool were protesting it, they thought the foul was the clash with Allison. That one was probably 50-50 so would have been given in favour of the keeper anyway.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Be interesting if somebody put together all the shirt pulls in the match that went unpunished

It’s not the point though.

They would only have been checked if a goal had been scored, like it did with our goal.

MOTD2 have said it was confirmed to them that the goal would have been ruled out for Haaland’s challenge on their keeper anyway.

 

[There is a Light]

Liverpool fans are shit fuck them the cunts MCFC

 

[Jesus H Gabz]

Right, but I thought he let a fair few go he shouldn’t have with the rest of the game too. I just go back to flip that around and if it was against us, I’d be shouting for a foul.

And that’s the problem, he’s addressed both teams pre match to instruct them as to how he was gonna ref the game, and the only time he failed to show that consistency is when we scored, I was shouting at the tv for every two handed push that they got away with, just like I would if they’d of scored from a similar situation as our disallowed goal, that’s me wearing my blue tinted specs, I’m a fan, kick every ball. But we normally see inconsistencies like this from game to game and they’ll be highlighted on motd etc, this was in the same game and heavily influenced by var, Taylor bottled it imo because he changed the way he was reffing the game for that 1 incident

 

[nellyonthewing]

Classic Pep this . Random selection and then a failure to counter it when it backfires.
I expect us to win the title but it will be a close thing again and we will see more Pep brainfarts before that happens.

 

[Octavian]

It’s not the point though.

They would only have been checked if a goal had been scored, like it did with our goal.

MOTD2 have said it was confirmed to them that the goal would have been ruled out for Haaland’s challenge on their keeper anyway.

He never had control of it.

Even Gary rat face said as much.

 

[Zinchilla]

They’re both relevant, in that it’s only instances like that where VAR can intervene and like I said, it’s only him that can say whether he saw it fully and bottled it or didn’t and changed his mind having seen the video.

On the rest of the game, I agree with you. I also said there was good reason both coaches were annoyed with him.

Fair point about VAR intervention, which therefore means he had a shocker and his philosophy for the day of let it go is at odds with how PGMOL or whatever they’re called feel matches should be reffed. Not a good look for our supposed top ref making up reffing policy on the hoof.

 

[Blu1]

The benefits of Jack are twofold. You get his ball retention and progression, as well as Foden on his better RHS. Not sure at all why he was left off, he’s clearly one of our better players at the moment.

I think pep could be a bit braver at times. Gundy was not at it today. Maybe move Kev more central & put Phil & Jack out-wide & let them run at them specially Milner who got off easy today. I’m sure my plan can be pulled apart but I just felt they were for the taking & we didn’t change anything

 

[coolcity]

I don’t think you have much perspective. And name-calling is not appreciated.

Not really interested what you think, and I didn't call anybody any names. I'll call people who act dumb and think Pep should go "idiots" all days long if that's how they want to act, and I don't have a problem with it. Reading some of the comments is embarrassing, sometimes I have to wonder if they're talking about some team at the bottom of the conference with the comments that come out.

 

[meltonblue]

Fair point about VAR intervention, which therefore means he had a shocker and his philosophy for the day of let it go is at odds with how PGMOL or whatever they’re called feel matches should be reffed. Not a good look for our supposed top ref making up reffing policy on the hoof.

I agree :) The other danger with it is when refs are inconsistent in their application, it doesn’t always just impact that game. Anyone saying he had a good game, I’d disagree with.

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Do you think if that shirt pull is at a corner var step in and give a penalty?

Yes, if it stops that player winning the ball.