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Was hoping for an early birthday present yesterday but alas not to be. However, I woke up this morning to find that I'm still a City fan, when they wake up they'll find they're still feral scouse weirdos so in the broader scheme of things I'm feeling quite blessed despite yesterday's result.
 
There were lots of mediocre performances and some poor ones. The player I was left the most frustrated by was Foden, up against a 37 year old he never ran at him once. Milner probably couldn’t believe how easy his game was. Cancealo is ok going forward but should never be left as the only defender as he is useless at it. Pep really needs to learn to stop over respecting good teams and trust his usual formation as it normally works.
 
Jocks Y-Fronts said:
My thoughts too. Still to play Chelsea, Arse, Spuds etc and now we don't look like the champions of the universe. We look good when battering Forest etc, but first game against a "bigger" team and we fold.
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Against forest we just went for the throat. Played with pace. I think we’d have been fine had we done same yesterday but we played with the handbrake on.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
There's a fine line and certainly when you see a Liverpool team fielding Milner and Gomez.

The first half was far too passive and gave Liverpool the belief they could hang in the game and get something.

Allison had little to do, the VAR decision probably right, although we know the decision process is open to corruption.

We didn't get close enough to goal and accomodating Gundo (again) has the impact of moving the other chess pieces, sometimes to the detriment of players starting in their best positions.

Forget all the talk about Erling, the title being in the bag.

Need to regain our momentum because Arsenal are playing without pressure still and Chelsea are hiding in the shadows.

Winnable games coming up and quite happy to lose battles, as long as we keep winning the majority of the wars.
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Agree with you here, this was a big opportunity for us to attack their weaknesses but we really didn't do that. That is why the result is so frustrating. We will never win every game, we won't play well in every game and I don't think every fan would expect us too.
We seem to make the same mistakes there all the time, I agree with your earlier comment about it not being the players who are scared but Pep. I find it odd that a man who is so successful can appear so full of doubt and uncertainty when it comes to them.
Yes, we have winnable games coming up but that also means we are going to have an awful lot of games post Christmas that will be quite tough. I also think Chelsea are going to put a run together.
Anyway, I am still disappointed by the result this morning. I really thought we could do it this time.
 
i♥city said:
8. Thiago deserved a red for the tackle on Rodri.
9. We need a Dinho or NDJ type midfielder to take Thiago's legs home as Souvenirs.
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We have in Philips, anyway onwards and upwards and anyone looking for a few quid load on West Ham this week versus this lot. They had their cup final yesterday and will be brought dowm to earth quick enough then.
 
jimmygrimblesboots said:
Are we ignoring the Haaland free header and the fact we were chasing the game and we took chances at the back in the last ten minutes , but the good news , Nunez is dogshit.
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I was responding to someone saying Liverpool had 2 chances in the whole game rather than what we created mate
 
Rammy Blue said:
It’s funny how always get shouted down if you dare slag him off as a defender.

Yesterday was unreal, still beggars belief that he would take such a risk, and what’s worse is he’d already done it earlier in the game too.
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He really had a game to forget. I know in the context of the goal it's a minor thing but I was also peeved at his miscontrol of the ball on the sideline in the dying minutes of the game, had no pressure on him either, just a lapse in concentration.
 
tommy116 said:
We have in Philips, anyway onwards and upwards and anyone looking for a few quid load on West Ham this week versus this lot. They had their cup final yesterday and will be brought dowm to earth quick enough then.
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Don't think so. Phillips would probably get himself injured trying to get the job done. Those guys where fucking anvils, Phillips is a hammer made out of cheese crackers.
 
Having calmed down a bit post the loss I still think the set up was wrong. From memory the last big game we played 3 at the back was Lyon in the CL and we got done. It doesn't suit what we have or how we play. It completely isolated Kev who was poor, but he couldn't get involved in the first half, and we lacked any tempo when we broke. Countless times Bernardo slowed our attacks down in the first half by either stopping or going backwards with the ball, he lifted massively in the second half, he always does. Found that odd of him in the first half so surely he was playing to instructions.

The idea we have to cater the set up to get Gundogan into the line up in big games has to go, we end up with to many players in the middle and it just clutters the midfield. I thought Jack would've given Milner fits, same with Foden on the right against Robertson who's been out of their side for a while on form.

I guess it's done now and it's about how we rebound from a poor performance and loss, still spewing we lost the chance to get at them and get three points at that dump. We usually rebound well from a poor performance and I feel we have to win our remaining matches until the World Cup.
 
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alexmcity said:
They don't have a psychological edge. They outplayed us in the first half in the FA Cup, but we played without Ederson, Dias, Laporte, Walker, Rodri, KDB...In the other games, we created more than them, but suffered from poor finishing and were a bit *unlucky* with refereeing decisions.

Nobody knows what's going to happen if we meet them in the CL. Maybe Haaland will score a hattrick? He missed about 5 big chances in the last 2 games vs Liverpool, he's likely to score in the next games.
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You're right, nobody does know but I think most of us have a fair idea of what will happen.
 
Was at the game so didn't see the VAR decision on the goal. Just watched it this morning and I'm still bitter about it.
As Shearer always says where's the clear and obvious error? Taylor was weak there he should have told the VAR guy to fck off before he went to the monitor. 100 percent that goal stands if they score it
 
onceabluealways said:
There were lots of mediocre performances and some poor ones. The player I was left the most frustrated by was Foden, up against a 37 year old he never ran at him once. Milner probably couldn’t believe how easy his game was. Cancealo is ok going forward but should never be left as the only defender as he is useless at it. Pep really needs to learn to stop over respecting good teams and trust his usual formation as it normally works.
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Bang on with that fella. It seems Pep is insecure when it comes to the big games and doesn't trust his team as weird as that sounds so attempts to over compensate with strange formations and tactics. Agree with what you said about Foden but that has to be because he was playing to instructions - I honestly can't believe it's anything else. We should have bombarded Liverpool's right hand side from the first whistle just as we did with United's left hand side in derby. I also can't believe he didn't bring Grealish on after they scored. Jack must be waking up this morning thinking just what the fuck do I have to do to get a run out in these big games? I have no problem with us getting beat by any team but it was in the manner we got beat yesterday which is very disappointing. This one is squarely on Pep 100%.
 
Keeper! said:
He is a RB/LB that simply can't do his job, ie defend.
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Why does everyone need a player to blame? If you end up with a modern attacking right back as your last line of defense against a player like Salah then something has gone drastically wrong before that. Tactically we were not at the races yesterday which led to all sorts of breakaway chances for them, that is only the managers fault (as much as I love him and hope he stays forever)
 
On reflection it’s same old same old . Liverpool go toe to toe with us and disrupt our slow passing build up. Our tempo from the kick off was sluggish. We only strung passes together in our own half whilst they competed for everything in their half and outnumbered and outfought any attempt at attack .
Absorb the pressure and spring forward at our defence which without Walker has no pace.
Even Solskaer had figured that out.
 
blue whippet said:
I find this irritating too. It's generally KDB and Foden stood by the ball too and they both appear to struggle to put a decent ball in. They are two of our best players at shooting too, both stood there away from the goal. Last season our corners were good, not sure why they should have deteriorated that much.
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Our corners have been bad for the past 10 years
 
onceabluealways said:
There were lots of mediocre performances and some poor ones. The player I was left the most frustrated by was Foden, up against a 37 year old he never ran at him once.
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Surely playing to instructions, the whole team were too slow in the build up and our shape was all over the shop.
 
Still annoyed at that shit show!

I was hoping for quick start, one that would be "RIP Liverpool'", however we started the match so lacklustre, that by tenth minutes we'd opened the door, let them in, sat them down, gave them tea, biscuits and counselled their previous "shite form" right out of the bastard window and like all good counsellors then preceeded to give them hope and the direction they'd been missing over the last 8 or so games.

Thankfully it had nothing to do with Pep, we know this because Pep was in the dugout 30 minutes before kick off, so it has absolutely nothing to absolutely do with Pep absolutely not.....is that clear!!!

The thought of Cancelo LB with Foden versus that twat Milner, fuck me Pep we'd have fooked them and nailed the coffin shut on the 47 year old judas prick's square head! A massive let off for klopp and a poor decision by Pep.

KDB as a winger? He does create there, no denying, but someone else against Roberts would have freed Kev to operate in some serious positions. Over thinking Pep.

Poor Erling was left playing against two to three defenders/midfielders all match, he had no room to operate, I've seen more room in a hoarders spare bedroom. Had Pep done a similar job with Salah, poor Cancelo wouldn't have found himself 1v1 with the whippet!

Pep fucked up, which is fine, it happens, but to not really change it and just watch it is a sin.

We don't often see Pep under think his over thinking, but when he does we lose without effort or change. It's frustrating, frustrating because you know what this team can do and with that defence which Klopp put out, Gomez and Milner!!!!!!!.....Gutted!!


And another thing, whats with this dilemma we find ourselves in when we're attacking and find ourselves in a 3 versus 2 advantage in the opponents half? We resembles a bunch of vicars who've walked in on a group swingers potatoes deep.....We look uncomfortably, scared, and praying for normality to the safe hands of devine Shape and fookin Possession!! Fuck that shit, go for their throats!!

It's vital we learn the art of the "quick attacks" and punish teams, especially in the CL.

Come on Pep, sort it out.....more cut throat please and less shape and possession when in key advantages.

Fookin still livid...
 
Brian's Kid said:
Why does everyone need a player to blame? If you end up with a modern attacking right back as your last line of defense against a player like Salah then something has gone drastically wrong before that. Tactically we were not at the races yesterday which led to all sorts of breakaway chances for them, that is only the managers fault (as much as I love him and hope he stays forever)
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A modern attacking right back is what the likes of Alaba, Ferland Mendy and Reece James are. Joao, like Trent are false fullbacks.
 
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