Liverpool (A) | PL | Post-Match Thread

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Otamendi's Beard said:
I hate them more by the day. More than yesterday.

We just looked tired, in particular Ake, Akanji, Rodri and Kev, and couldn't find another gear after going 1 nil down.

It's easy to be smart in hindsight, but changes should've been made earlier to add some energy.
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Think pretty much any supporter with at least a little but of knowledge saw that changes were needed as soon as they scored.

My only concern with Pep, is that he is an amazing pre game manager - likely the best in history. But his in game management is at times not up to it, which occurs in big games. It's like he freezes and is afraid to make changes to the system.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Klopp has his number,we got sucked into his type of game and Pep failed to counter it.
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Not necessarily sucked into his type of game, that’s on the referee who’s spoken to both teams pre match & stated how he was gonna ref it, there can be no doubt that type of refereeing was always gonna suit the dippers & their cult more, we accepted the challenge only to have the goal posts moved when we score, can you imagine if the ref stated before the game there are no long balls allowed? We’ve seen it at anfield many times, second yellows not given because it might spoil the game (product) players allowed to rack up several fouls without punishment, Tront flagging for a taxi handball
 
wythenshaweblue£££ said:
We was unlucky yesterday and never got the decisions once again at Klanfield. Simple mistakes cost us the game we all knew if they was going to score it was going to be that ball over the top and unfortunately Cancelo made a mistake. At least we have no midweek game and get back to business on Saturday.
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VAR aside......I thought we got the better of the decisions.
 
I'm not overly upset by the result last night. I thought we were comfortably the better team and got beat by a counterattack. Had our goal stood, we would have gone on to win by two or three.

My only gripe is that I thought we could have been more aggressive in the first half. There were a few times when Milner was there for the taking but Foden/Bernardo held the ball up and slowed the game down.

Cancelo had an off day. I'll forgive him, he's been brilliant this season.
 
Bazzmand Show said:
Think pretty much any supporter with at least a little but of knowledge saw that changes were needed as soon as they scored.

My only concern with Pep, is that he is an amazing pre game manager - likely the best in history. But his in game management is at times not up to it, which occurs in big games. It's like he freezes and is afraid to make changes to the system.
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Klipps subs gave them the energy to push the game across the line . Pep sat on his hands again. Baffles me how he can freeze like that.
 
Their goal was from a long ball, the most annoying thing about that is i think the majority of their goals against us are from that same kind of switch. We usually have 2 people back from attacks, not sure why there was only one on this occasion but it is what it is.
We knew we had an advantage over them on the left side, obviously Pep was rightly cautious of Salah against Cancelo all game but tbh we would have done more damage the other way on Milner. I know people were down on Foden not taking Milner on but they were doubling up on him and he obviously didn't have help from Ake, who's not a naturally attacking fullback. A switch should have been done mid game there imo, maybe move Ake into the middle and Akanje back out to the right.
Have Kevin on the right wasn't working either, they were picking a lot of pockets in the second half but in the first on the transitions we weren't able to move the ball the same without KDB.
All this talk from the scousers about Haaland being pocketed, absolute nonsense. He completely dominated Gomez all game and VVD managed to get last minute tackles to stop him, but he was killing them with movement. Bit of luck, a competent pack of officials and an adjustment in tactics, we would've fucking panned them.
 
Fordyboy46 said:
Not many have mentioned our pathetic corners and corner routine yet, just what is the point of having two players stood next to the ball, when only one player usually takes a shit corner, leaving the other doing fuck all in a hopeless position on the pitch. It's baffling to me, and is a total waste of time.
We obviously don't practice corners as well, because they are utter wank, absolutely zero threat from any of them game after game, free kicks not much better
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Only Liverpool (13) scored more goals from corners than us (12) last year.

Both Liverpool and City are in the bottom 3 for number of attacking players in the 6 yard box at corners, so there seems to be both quite a lot of practice going on and some very deliberate positioning of players.
 
FantasyIreland said:
Klopp has his number,we got sucked into his type of game and Pep failed to counter it.
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100% and Pep does overthink this type of game.

Yesterday was a game we had to be in their faces from the off, put them under huge pressure, especially that back line with Milner, was he ever tested yesterday?
 
Guess one of the reasons why Pep put KDB on the right was to scare Robertson and force him to stay back. KDB plus Cancelo on the right is on paper an incredibly creative combo. Dunno why it didn't work, maybe because both have never played together there...

But if I have to go with the same tactics and formation, I'd go with Foden instead of Gundogan in midfield and Grealish on the left. Gundogan is a leader and very clever, but sometimes energy and speed are more important, especially at Anfield.

The formation was something like:

Akanji-----Dias-------Ake

Cancelo---Rodri---Bernardo

------------Gundogan

------KDB-----------Foden

-----------Haaland

I'd play instead with KDB---Foden---Grealish behind Haaland. Might be completely wrong, and I'm a Gundo fan, but Pep made a mistake with including him in that formation, IMO. If there's a ground in the world where energy and pace are much needed, it's Anfield.
 
Apart from roughly the first 15-20mins, where liverpool went full pelt, I think we controlled the game effectively.

We were actually cutting through their midfield with ease, the issues arose when we did just that because we opted to go backwards. Foden, should have made milner's life a misery but he was let of the hook. Klopp made elliot double up on him, but again we didn't exploit the situations enough

Liverpool committed to defending and cutting off the supply line to Haaland, for them their game plan came out on top this time round

I agree with what others have said, this game isnt the time to meddle with the formation. We should have stuck with what was working and just gone for the jugular.

The second half we lost control and played into their hands

Move on to the next game, but here's hoping that we stuff them in the reverse fixture at our gaff
 
Brian's Kid said:
If that's the case he shouldn't have bought Cancelo
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We play 60 games a season, probably 90% of which are winnable with our players in 2nd gear, but when we play in a genuine test it shows our weaknesses, and Cancelo when defending is a huge weakness.

The Dippers have one, Terence Trent Derby a huge threat in attacking, a joke at defending, it was no coincidence he was left on the bench yesterday and the dippers recorded a rare clean sheet.
 
Observations about yesterday...

There was a time, just afew years ago when we would invariably get beaten convincingly by the Dippers at Klanfield.
That is not the case any more, OK we still have a poor win record there but they haven't beaten us convincingly in years.

We know that the PL are protecting them, every game we play against them there is some kind of weird decision or non decision that goes in their favour. Its like a handicap system to keep the dippers relevant and protect the brand. Lets be in no doubt about that.

Pep occasionally over thinks things and we lose a game because of it. It doesn't happen often but its usually big games when it does... If thats the price we have to pay to have Pep then so be it.

One could say the same about Cancelo, his defensive game can be prone to a fuck up but his attacking play more than makes up for it most of the time. I'm glad he's here.

Bernardo is fucking brilliant.

In a week when referee abuse has been in the spotlight Klopps antics (as usual) have been pathetic and he should be punished severely. Its not an isolated incident and the PL should give him a 3 match touchline ban. But they won't.

The scousers hate us so much that their spleen venting roused their aging players to a level of intensity that they havent reached this season. We live in their heads. A one off against us doesn't make them a good team or solve their underlying problems.

Milner is a ****.

This setback will probably doe us some good, its not hurt us too much and I think the players will be frustrated and a bit annoyed about coming away with nothing yet again from there. We know what usually follows a result like this so I'm looking forward to another long run of good results. Taking a defeat once in a while can be a good thing.
 
3 points threw away. We need a mini run now to get stabilise our position in the league. Arsenal/spurs/chavs must surly smell blood and think the league is up for grabs.

Oh, I fucking hate those jibbing cunts.
 
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just watched MOTD2, decent analysis from Murphy. showed that the back 3 was a back 3 and that it left us very exposed at the back.

reminded me of when Pep lost the plot for Bayern and tried to play a back 3 against Messi and Co.
 
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