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ancoats said:
I don't think It's just about the players Liverpool had on the field, but more about the system Klopp uses
pep struggles with teams hitting us on the break, it's a weakness within our setup, Liverpool bypass our forward and midfield press and hit the channels from back to front quickly,

we are so open when we are on the attack and our own corners are also a danger to us, now add silly mistakes and next thing it's in the net

pep will take losing a couple of times a season if it means we beat enough teams to win the title, so back's himself
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Agree with that last paragraph, as that is what winning titles is all about. The pisscan had it down to a fine art at the swamp. Really pissed off losing against these tossers though.
 
SebastianBlue said:
I am putting this loss (our first of the season no less) firmly at the feet of Pep.

Say what you want about Joao’s mistake—and there is quite a lot to be said—but it should have never been 0-0 by that point in the first place.

The system was wrong, the tactics were wrong, and the sub (1 of 5) were wrong. Our lads generally didn’t play that well, to be sure, but I think a large part of that was down to the formation and tactics: Kev was wasted on the RW, Ilkay was unnecessary, if not actually a hinderance with his instructions, Phil seemingly being told to retain possession at all costs rather than test Milner.

Pep is a genius, and I wouldn’t swap him for any other manager in the world, but he got this one wrong.
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This , i am going to spare myself the rest of this thread and more fool me for thinking we would have a goal allowed at varfield
 
danielwood5 said:
If that was a foul the ball would be in play for about 5 minutes a game and we'd just be watching a load of players taking free kicks for 85 minutes, this game included.
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Its a foul only in final third when VAR goes over it 20 x ...games can be won or lost in Stockley Park by the invisible men!...Don't get me wrong they should have had a hat full really... but really we MIGHT have changed actics if we went one up...hope we would have as we were done for speed and threat of speed. Walker covered so much of that ground when he was playing and fit...really tough without quick cover at the back. Ederson no longer on 18 yard box after being done a few times and sent off v Wolves - even more reason for speed at the back.. everyone knocks Spuds, but...they are a team made or our defense...especially when we play them at home
 
kaz7 said:
This , i am going to spare myself the rest of this thread and more fool me for thinking we would have a goal allowed at varfield
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As night follows day any VAR decision in these games (and against Spurs), invariably always goes in the oppositions favour. It'quite ridiculous tbh.
 
simon23 said:
yup spot on....every season esp at their place.

Our set up plays perfectly into Liverpools hands time and time again.
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Absolutely, they had to win, why not two banks of four with KDB playing in the middle to try and feed Haaland so 4 4 1 1 formation for me..id take a draw there any day..as it was, we were so exposed ...so often...this will happen in CL as well...v Madrid for example or da'pool. Klopp must love playing Pep as Pep really struggles to be so pragmatic - makes it hard to watch when we play them or Spuds...Kane passes round the corner to the wheels of Son...goal...
 
Think Cancelo has been poor defensively most of the season- sublime at times going forward but nowhere near as assured as he was last year.
We can get away with the way we play and be open to the counter against the lesser teams as they don't have the quality of the likes of Salah on the break. The really irritating thing is the goal came from our own diabolical free-kick. We were terrible at set-pieces yesterday- corners in particular.
It's disappointing we didn't really target Milner. Foden had him on toast at Klanfield a couple of seasons ago.
With regards to VAR I really don't see the point in the referee getting called over to the monitor. Everybody knows fine well whatever decision has been made on field they are going to overturn it. Might as well take it out of their hands altogether and stop the minutes of time being wasted and save the ref from the thousands of bin dippers screaming in his ear. A really farcical procedure.
 
I think part of the problem we have when we play there is a lack of competitive aggression. Clearly a better team than them but we struggle when teams are physical against us and can get away with it. Time for the manager to take his gloves off when it comes to dealing with their man child of a manager and really fire the players up whenever we play the fuckers next
 
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This unbalanced **** needs showing the door from the English game, it's not the first time he has done something like this.
 
Theblueguy said:
Why wouldnt we expect it? They've played that way for years. Quick hoof to a runner and hope for the best.

I know its shit football and not how we play normally but we should have been trying the hoof over
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When Klopp realised rhat we were still trying to win the game. He took off Firmino and Elliott and moved Salah into the middle. Nunez is fast and so is Salah. It would have gone against all of Peps principles to have done the same. Bring on Grealish move Kev back into midfield and take off Gundo. Sat back and use our speed merchant up front on the break. Their criwd would have Bern urging them forward. For those 20mins we should have played them at their own game. Just the way I saw it but what do I know. I love the way we play football but just sometimes I wouldlove us to play the occasion.
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
This actually raises a serious point, which I've raised elsewhere. I'd be very curious to know if the ref has the right to simply tell the people in his earpiece that, no, he's not going over to consult the monitor. They presumably cannot order him to do so. He is the on-pitch match referee.
It would be very controversial, of course. Why would he do such a thing? Well, precisely because of this: he would be well within his rights to say, "I was right up with the game, only a few yards away, I was following it closely, I'm a trained referee at elite level, and I saw no clear and obvious error. You may have seen something playing it several times over in slow motion, but neither I nor the other two helping me out on the pitch saw it. It thus does not come under the heading of what you can legitimately intervene for. So thanks — no monitor. I stand by my decision.”
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Both my sons are qualified refs so I know a little bit about the system. One used to officiate at City and utds academy and was coached by Chris Kavanagh. My other lad was affliated to the Cheshire FA and was coached by Anthony Taylor.
To move up through the ranks they are assessed by more senior referees.
In my mind one of the failings of VAR is that they have to tell the on field they've made a mistake which could detrimental to their career. The reason I think Taylor was weak yesterday is that he right on top of situation and he could have just told the VAR he was happy with what he saw. I'm sure that happens all the time.
There was no clear and obvious error and he should have stuck with his decision
 
Lovebitesandeveryfing said:
This actually raises a serious point, which I've raised elsewhere. I'd be very curious to know if the ref has the right to simply tell the people in his earpiece that, no, he's not going over to consult the monitor. They presumably cannot order him to do so. He is the on-pitch match referee.
It would be very controversial, of course. Why would he do such a thing? Well, precisely because of this: he would be well within his rights to say, "I was right up with the game, only a few yards away, I was following it closely, I'm a trained referee at elite level, and I saw no clear and obvious error. You may have seen something playing it several times over in slow motion, but neither I nor the other two helping me out on the pitch saw it. It thus does not come under the heading of what you can legitimately intervene for. So thanks — no monitor. I stand by my decision.”
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Before Var nobody even talks about a minor infringement like that leading to a goal, everything is way too forensically examined, which was always the danger with var.
 
Scott mcfc said:
U havin a laugh,whos won the fuckin leauge the last 2 years,we loose against liverpool an u go after pep,do me a favour
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Not disputing Pep wins league titles and I love the guy, but that was a cowardly performance yesterday against a weakened Liverpool side, so the next big game ie; Champions league, Spurs, Chelsea, Arsenal let’s see what happens, that’s where my worry comes from.
 
I almost think this rivalry with that lot & Klopp inciting them with what he says pre game needs Pep to drop the nice guy act, and go nuclear on Klopp, them and all the shitty calls that go their way like he did against Mourinho and Real Madrid in his Barca days. Klopp feeds off Pep's nice guy image & it's about time we stopped playing nice with Liverpool.

They've hacked our scouting database, smashed our buses, treated our travelling fans like shit, list goes on, this treading lightly with them doesn't work.

Rather see us from Pep and our owners drop the nice side of it all & just go back at them.
 
Ali B's Heel said:


Slow it down to 0.25 speed, at 1:05, Salah looks to swing his hand on the turn and strike the ball
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I’ve watched it back several times now and the ball definitely hits his arm as the trajectory and especially speed of the ball’s movement changes from the initial bounce.

I can’t post video on here but here are two still frames showing the moment of contact.

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