Suella Braverman - sacked as Home Secretary (p394)

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For the avoidance of confusion to all those who think that somehow refugee's enter the UK illegally - we are signatories to the 1951 convention - these are the relevant sections

ARTICLE 3. NON-DISCRIMINATION The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

ARTICLE 31. REFUGEES UNLAWFULLY IN THE COUNTRY OF REFUGE 1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of Article

1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
2. The Contracting States shall not apply to the movements of such refugees restrictions other than those which are necessary and such restrictions shall only be applied until their status in the country is regularized or they obtain admission into another country. The Contracting States shall allow such refugees a reasonable period and all the necessary facilities to obtain admission into another country.

If anyone wants the whole document is here

 
bluethrunthru said:
For the avoidance of confusion to all those who think that somehow refugee's enter the UK illegally - we are signatories to the 1951 convention - these are the relevant sections

ARTICLE 3. NON-DISCRIMINATION The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

ARTICLE 31. REFUGEES UNLAWFULLY IN THE COUNTRY OF REFUGE 1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of Article

1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
2. The Contracting States shall not apply to the movements of such refugees restrictions other than those which are necessary and such restrictions shall only be applied until their status in the country is regularized or they obtain admission into another country. The Contracting States shall allow such refugees a reasonable period and all the necessary facilities to obtain admission into another country.

If anyone wants the whole document is here

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But it’s all in the context of a government who have no qualms about breaking international laws, and a Home Secretary who is insisting that we leave the ECHR.
 
Bodicoteblue said:
But it’s all in the context of a government who have no qualms about breaking international laws, and a Home Secretary who is insisting that we leave the ECHR.
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In which case we dip out of the other 200 odd pages - alienate ourselves from something we may well need in the future. Like they did with Dublin 3.
 
Calling this an invasion is really dangerous language that panders to the worst elements in our society. Cruella has a screw loose, and should be nowhere near public office in a supposed civilised country. She's Inciting a section of the public, who will see her words as a justification for using violence. This **** needs fucking off, out of her depth, both morally and intellectually, and an embarrassment to the country.
 
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The Stockport Iniesta said:
Calling this an invasion is really dangerous language that panders to the worst elements in our society. Cruella has a screw loose, and should be nowhere near public office in a supposed civilised country. She's Inciting a section of the public, who will see her words as a justification for using violence. This **** needs fucking off, out of her depth and an embarrassment to the country.
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‘Invasion’ also conflates the current issues in Ukraine and resonates in more people. The use of these words aren’t a coincidence.
 
bluethrunthru said:
For the avoidance of confusion to all those who think that somehow refugee's enter the UK illegally - we are signatories to the 1951 convention - these are the relevant sections

ARTICLE 3. NON-DISCRIMINATION The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin.

ARTICLE 31. REFUGEES UNLAWFULLY IN THE COUNTRY OF REFUGE 1. The Contracting States shall not impose penalties, on account of their illegal entry or presence, on refugees who, coming directly from a territory where their life or freedom was threatened in the sense of Article

1, enter or are present in their territory without authorization, provided they present themselves without delay to the authorities and show good cause for their illegal entry or presence.
2. The Contracting States shall not apply to the movements of such refugees restrictions other than those which are necessary and such restrictions shall only be applied until their status in the country is regularized or they obtain admission into another country. The Contracting States shall allow such refugees a reasonable period and all the necessary facilities to obtain admission into another country.

If anyone wants the whole document is here

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Is the problem the use of language (here). We seem to use refugee / asylum seeker randomly and interchangeably. Both I think may arrive through non official channels but may have a very different legal status. I stress legal status as that should at least also be distinct from the moral argument.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
It's designed to polarise the public and divide us into two baying mobs throwing insults at each other, getting more entrenched in our views and shutting down actual debate - just like brexit did. Have a look at the way this thread is going in the last 24 hrs to see the process working.
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Half agree with you.
It's designed to create just one baying mob who don't need much convincing that the terrible state of the country is down to a few thousand people arriving on a rubber dinghy into a country with a population of 68 million. The rest of us want a competent government to put a system in place that can efficiently deal with immigration and asylum in a manner that allows the persecuted and those that qualify to stay and quickly deports the chancers and criminals, rather than locking them all up together in squalid conditions whilst blaming the system for which they have been responsible for the last 12 years.
 
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