A lot of the 15 year olds who get swept up into gang culture are influenced by the financial rewards that are supposedly within their grasp.What you are arguing is what is and isn't politically acceptable. In both instances children are groomed and used to commit illegal acts by adults who are the real culprits.
It's not any different to a kid joining a gang and killing or being killed in the name of that gang(of which there is no evidence that she personally has ever such a thing). Is the psyche or morality of a 15 year old kid that gets swept up into the gang culture any different to what Shamima Begum's was aged 15. I would argue not.
She was as naive, immature and impressionable as any 15 year old that gets persuaded to join a gang by older members with their own evil agendas.
That's nice of her. The analogy of a 12 year old really doesn't work I'm afraid. Anyhow we have all done daft shit when we are young and still do as we get older. But people have a line even at 15 that they won't cross. The line is different for each individual but its there and there isn't any magical enlightenment that occurs when you blow out the 16 candles on your cake.
This isn't a 15 year old supping cider and giving a blow job in the park.
Anyhow eventually the legal process will come to a conclusion and she will reside in this country, full of remorse no doubt because this isn't self interest on her part obviously.
should her father take abit of the blame....after all he did take her on islamist marches when she was 13.
What you are arguing is what is and isn't politically acceptable. In both instances children are groomed and used to commit illegal acts by adults who are the real culprits.
It's not any different to a kid joining a gang and killing or being killed in the name of that gang(of which there is no evidence that she personally has ever such a thing). Is the psyche or morality of a 15 year old kid that gets swept up into the gang culture any different to what Shamima Begum's was aged 15. I would argue not.
She was as naive, immature and impressionable as any 15 year old that gets persuaded to join a gang by older members with their own evil agendas.
A lot of the 15 year olds who get swept up into gang culture are influenced by the financial rewards that are supposedly within their grasp.
Let’s bring her father back with her to face trial then. He was the initial groomer.
If she was groomed from the age of 13 did she in turn groom her travelling friends?
I know thisWhat you are arguing is fine, but the law states that 15 is a child and 16 isn’t necessarily.
She was telling a gagYes, and I know that is going to push a few buttons with folk on here especially, but saying crass inappropriate and offensive things puts her in the same category as Jimmy Carr, Chubby Brown and Russel Brand - not Osama Bin Laden.
I forgive youSo that was you? Well it was dark and that cider was strong.
Can anyone on here prove she's not a threat to the country? this isn't gang culture, this is militia warfare we're talking about. GCHQ and MI6 think the same and I'd prefer to take their word for it than people on bluemoon. She's been brainwashed which can't be undone, sad but that's the facts. Keep her far away from here as possible
Haven't you got it back to front?
It’s up to the government to prove that she is a danger.
She doesn't even wear a hijab anymore, some brainwashing.
Haven't you got it back to front?
It’s up to the government to prove that she is a danger.
She doesn't even wear a hijab anymore, some brainwashing.
Can anyone on here prove she's not a threat to the country? this isn't gang culture, this is militia warfare we're talking about. GCHQ and MI6 think the same and I'd prefer to take their word for it than people on bluemoon. She's been brainwashed which can't be undone, sad but that's the facts. Keep her far away from here as possible
So why have we let hundreds of others back in?
People who fought, and likely killed, on the frontline for ISIS welcomed back.....yet an ISIS bride trafficked over there at 15 had to be made stateless to keep her away.
And I'm not aware of there being any evidence of her being involved in any warfare (happy to be corrected if there is though)
Even the most bigoted people (not suggesting you btw) surely should see that something doesn't quite add up when it comes to Bagum's case.
So why have we let hundreds of others back in?
People who fought, and likely killed, on the frontline for ISIS welcomed back.....yet an ISIS bride trafficked over there at 15 had to be made stateless to keep her away.
And I'm not aware of there being any evidence of her being involved in any warfare (happy to be corrected if there is though)
Even the most bigoted people (not suggesting you btw) surely should see that something doesn't quite add up when it comes to Bagum's case.
She isn't welcome until she's wearing a mankini.
Haven't you got it back to front?
It’s up to the government to prove that she is a danger.
She doesn't even wear a hijab anymore, some brainwashing.
No, she was saying outrageous things that make people want to lynch her.She was telling a gag