Gas & Electricity

mcfc_ms said:
Was that the first time it’s been on? Ive ended up with covid this week and put our heating on for the first time on Tuesday. The full day was around £12 in gas. Since then it’s been left on and averaged about £7 a day. So I think it used a lot more that first time to get the house up to temp
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For a while, yes. It took forever to get up to temperature.
 
Bulb have just sent me an email to say, because of credit in my account and my low usage so far this Winter, they’re putting my gas+electric payments down to £16.83 per month (which takes into account the £67/m from the govt).
 
KS55 said:
It had not occurred to me until I read a press story today, the taxpayer picks up the gas and leccy bill for MPs second homes. Humph.
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Our taxes only go towards the country’s deficit every year. Our taxes go to nothing else.
 
My daughter tried to persuade me to install a smart meter, she had one fitted last year. I told her I didn't see the need, I keep a spreadsheet and take regular readings, so I know within pennies what my bill will be every month.
Called me an "Old Luddite" (and worse) and claimed her energy bill had reduced a lot since installing one.
She called me today to say her "smart" meter had failed to include electricity usage for past 4 months and now has a back-charge of round £350!
Also, stop energy supplies claiming smart meters are free, everyone's bill includes a charge to cover the rollout (estimated £10bn-£13bn for 30m homes).
 
Fiftyyearsandcounting said:
My daughter tried to persuade me to install a smart meter, she had one fitted last year. I told her I didn't see the need, I keep a spreadsheet and take regular readings, so I know within pennies what my bill will be every month.
Called me an "Old Luddite" (and worse) and claimed her energy bill had reduced a lot since installing one.
She called me today to say her "smart" meter had failed to include electricity usage for past 4 months and now has a back-charge of round £350!
Also, stop energy supplies claiming smart meters are free, everyone's bill includes a charge to cover the rollout (estimated £10bn-£13bn for 30m homes).
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It seems incredible to me that so many people know of people with smart meter issues.

Pretty much half the meters in the country are smart, so it puts the 10 or so peoples’ stories on here that know of smart meter issues into a bit of context.

With or without a smart meter, you’d probably notice that touve not used any electricity for 4 months.
 
Alan Harper's Tash said:
It seems incredible to me that so many people know of people with smart meter issues.

Pretty much half the meters in the country are smart, so it puts the 10 or so peoples’ stories on here that know of smart meter issues into a bit of context.

With or without a smart meter, you’d probably notice that touve not used any electricity for 4 months.
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Fucking pain in the arse, trying to get mine fixed for 6 months they’ve done fuck all, unplugged the display within 24 hours I get a text saying they will estimate my bill because they can’t get a reading, no you won’t you can send someone out to read it you cunts.
 
Blue Maverick said:
Fucking pain in the arse, trying to get mine fixed for 6 months they’ve done fuck all, unplugged the display within 24 hours I get a text saying they will estimate my bill because they can’t get a reading, no you won’t you can send someone out to read it you cunts.
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We moved to a house with the older kind, so we can’t see what’s happening in real time, but Bulb get our meter readings daily, so we can look the next day at what we used the day before.

I’ve missed out on the shit installation of them and gremlins as a result. Sounds grim what has happened to you.
 
I downloaded the Loop Smart Meter app this week (works with most smart meters it says) and it’s got some good features. I particularly like the Solar Panel simulation it can do to see approximately how much saving it would offer if installed.

Out of interest for others they have a page showing the average usage per different household/residents which shows how wasteful homes (& people) really are with energy.

blog.loop.homes

Compare energy use: are you a big spender?

You may know how much energy your household uses each year, and at what cost. But have you any idea how that compares to other, similar homes?
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We are going to be around 60% usage this calendar year compared to a typical home like ours. Our boiler is 15 years old too.

The app itself doesn’t do a full year on year comparison as it only keeps 13 months of data (data protection, maybe), which is surprising, but I have my own app that tracks all my smart meter data from Octopus. I’ve had data for 15 months and in the overlapping 3 months I am down 20% in electricity (no idea how I managed that) and 5% in gas compared to the same period (doing comparison this way irons out energy fluctuations caused by temperature drops, different sunrises/sunsets etc). It will be interesting to see if I can retain these reductions.
 
Citizen of Legoland said:
Out of interest for others they have a page showing the average usage per different household/residents which shows how wasteful homes (& people) really are with energy.

We are going to be around 60% usage this calendar year compared to a typical home like ours. Our boiler is 15 years old too.
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Tables like that are pointless in my opinion. Its only the average use of their users, how ever many that is.

There is no such thing as a typical home anyway, too many variables: location, age of occupants, gas vs electric cooking, electric shower vs shower running off boiler/immersion heater etc.

Just look at your own consumption and try and reduce it.

My gas usage, slotted into that table, is that of a 1 bedroom flat with 1 occupant. My electric usage is a 5 bed house with 4 occupants!
 
trumpton said:
Tables like that are pointless in my opinion. Its only the average use of their users, how ever many that is.

There is no such thing as a typical home anyway, too many variables: location, age of occupants, gas vs electric cooking, electric shower vs shower running off boiler/immersion heater etc.

Just look at your own consumption and try and reduce it.

My gas usage, slotted into that table, is that of a 1 bedroom flat with 1 occupant. My electric usage is a 5 bed house with 4 occupants!
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I agree it may be weighted to high users to some extent, especially as those downloading this app may be doing so because they’re trying to reduce usage due to their high figures, but it’s a start, certainly not pointless. Also OFGEM have a less granular low/medium/high set of figures, TDCV I think it’s called, I’ve not compared the two sets yet. kWh usage though can only be compared as a total electricity + gas due to the different cooking and heating methods.
 
My mother has been in hospital for the 3 weeks in September. So I everything off whilst she was in hospital. I received an email from OVO this week saying based off her usage over the last couple ofmonths we need to increase her DD to £500 a month. They then sent her a current statement and she is in credit. Cannot work any of this out
 
richardtheref said:
My mother has been in hospital for the 3 weeks in September. So I everything off whilst she was in hospital. I received an email from OVO this week saying based off her usage over the last couple ofmonths we need to increase her DD to £500 a month. They then sent her a current statement and she is in credit. Cannot work any of this out
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I am with OVO posted a couple of weeks back got 3 emails in one day each one raising my dd started at 300 then 320 then 350 ish ignored them got another yesterday saying should be 286 don't think they are really on top of things.
 
ganganvince said:
I am with OVO posted a couple of weeks back got 3 emails in one day each one raising my dd started at 300 then 320 then 350 ish ignored them got another yesterday saying should be 286 don't think they are really on top of things.
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I signed her up a couple of months before the price hikes. She was supposed to be on a guaranteed price plan for 2 years. During a phone call they, more or less, accused me of knowing what was coming & telling me they couldn't afford to supply it at the agreed amount. Also,as the call center closes at 6pm, you get cut off in mid conversation at 6pm, even in mid conversation. At another point they said that the previous readings supplied by EDF were incorrect. At this point she didn't have a smart meter & EDF had never requested readings or came out to read them, so not sure how EDF gave them readings
 
Every year it was usually pushed to the edge in winter or slightly in deficit but then back in credit during the summer months. Roll on global warming then our milder months will start to outweigh the cold ones.
 
Scottyboi said:
Just missed it as was doing the school run, what did he say?
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Just waffling on about the percentage increases we are going to face in Jan, then April etc. I tried to zone out as much as possible as in my house we use far more than the typical household and I’d hate to think what my bills are going to be like by then, Octopus emailed me yesterday wanting to put mine up to £400 a month now.
 
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