Liverpool fans throwing missiles from South Stand Level 3

[robsta]

Is it not a police & cps decision? Nothing to do with the club mate, so I believe you’re annoyed at the club for no reason

City have at least part responsibility for the safety of fans inside the stadium and have a duty of care. They also have to play a part in investigating any criminal act and pursuing the offender(s). They say they “are working with GMP to try and identify offenders with the intention of supporting and running criminal prosecutions”.

Ok ultimately down to CPS but don’t agree it’s nothing to do with the club.

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

Is it not a police & cps decision? Nothing to do with the club mate, so I believe you’re annoyed at the club for no reason whatsoever

But if the club do not provide evidence then the police / CPS can't do anything about it.

The police love to charge football fans for anything (easy pickings and helps keep their arrest figures up...) so given any evidence it would be nailed on there would be a prosecution

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Isn't the mayor of Liverpool busy being on trial for fraud and being part of an organised crime gang?

I doubt it would be a surprise to most , if true.

 

[Centurions]

Had an email reply from City Security today in response to my complaint following the Liverpool match. Addressed to “Folks” so clearly to more than just me and probably to everyone who sent in a complaint.

Quite a long email and just full of reassurances which I don’t have a lot of faith in. Says they are “….receiving ongoing support from LFC”. Again no faith in that based on what’s happened at Anfield in the past. Also asks for anyone with mobile phone footage of any incidents to send in to them along with times and locations.

MCFC Security Team - I’m sure you read posts on here so note my words - “I have no faith in what you’ve said in your email”

What was the point in sending an email when you'd obviously already made your mind up that you wouldn't put any faith in any reply?

 

[Brendan110_0]

Ban the cunts, simple City, get them told no fans welcome here anymore - we don't want ketteling into their w@nk stadium anyway when they return the favour.

 

[Maly]

But if the club do not provide evidence then the police / CPS can't do anything about it.

The police love to charge football fans for anything (easy pickings and helps keep their arrest figures up...) so given any evidence it would be nailed on there would be a prosecution

The police will request the recordings & look for the evidence themselves no?

Are City responsible for supplying the evidence of who chucked what or just the recordings mate?

I’d presume it’s the latter, but happy to be corrected

 

[robsta]

What was the point in sending an email when you'd obviously already made your mind up that you wouldn't put any faith in any reply?

I hadn’t already made my mind up. I was willing to hear what the club had to say and hopefully see positive actions. My comment regarding no faith is a result of the content of their responses and the fact that weeks on and no sign of real action.

Simple things like this should have come from the Head of Safety & Security - surely it’s important enough for him to put his name behind what they claim to be doing.

And also (as per earlier posts) when they had a relatively innocuous incident to investigate they contacted me within days of the Brentford game to ask if I had witnessed it. Pinpointed me from CCTV as being near to it. That was 4 days after the game. So why aren’t we already hearing they have done similar for the Liverpool game.

 

[Maly]

City have at least part responsibility for the safety of fans inside the stadium and have a duty of care. They also have to play a part in investigating any criminal act and pursuing the offender(s). They say they “are working with GMP to try and identify offenders with the intention of supporting and running criminal prosecutions”.

Ok ultimately down to CPS but don’t agree it’s nothing to do with the club.

Of course safety in the ground is the clubs responsibility, but I’m not sure how that links to City having anything to do with the prosecution, other than supplying cctv footage?

Have I misunderstood you or did you misunderstand my previous post?

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

The police will request the recordings & look for the evidence themselves no?

Are City responsible for supplying the evidence of who chucked what or just the recordings mate?

I’d presume it’s the latter, but happy to be corrected

No idea. I'd assume City would look at it and if they see anything they'd hand it over rather than simply give the police 2 hours of tapes to wade through??

 

[levets]

it was a fucking coach driver collection mate.......its fans like you who are furthering this scouse hatred

Hahaha ;-)

 

[Maly]

No idea. I'd assume City would look at it and if they see anything they'd hand it over rather than simply give the police 2 hours of tapes to wade through??

Ha ha, blind leading the blind here mate. I assumed the opposite, which would explain our differing views on the club being at fault

Hopefully someone with a wee bit more knowledge will confirm one way or another

 

[creditunionhero]

No it isn't in the public interest, it's in the interest of people who are more concerned about a rivalry with Liverpool fans than allowing the Club the opportunity to carry out an investigation in the way they feel it should be carried out.

From everything we've heard from the young girl's family (who are the ones who really matter) they are satisfied with the way the club is handling it.

Lots of fans were hit by objects thrown from the third tier including flares, thankfully most were not seriously harmed, I sit in the second tier and although I have never been hit by anything, I want the club to keep season ticket holders like myself aware of what is being done to bring those responsible to task.

If publishing photo's helps then it should happen. I am a member of the public and I consider it to be a matter of public interest, nothing to do with stirring a rivalry with any clubs fans Liverpool or otherwise.

 

[blue b4 the moon]

Lots of fans were hit by objects thrown from the third tier including flares, thankfully most were not seriously harmed, I sit in the second tier and although I have never been hit by anything, I want the club to keep season ticket holders like myself aware of what is being done to bring those responsible to task.

If publishing photo's helps then it should happen. I am a member of the public and I consider it to be a matter of public interest, nothing to do with stirring a rivalry with any clubs fans Liverpool or otherwise.

Dead right, I was evicted from 315 for the game and put into 114, luckily very little came down on my block but the point stands. City have a duty of care to ALL fans in the ground.

 

[yeseye]

I ask the question why would someone carry so many coins if not for intent when in this day and age you pay with your card, or in case with a scouse someones card they have dipped

They’ll have got them out of a fountain somewhere..

 

[Mad Eyed Screamer]

They’ll have got them out of a fountain somewhere..

Yes they picked them out when helping that old bloke out who they shoved in!

 

[jrb]

Of course safety in the ground is the clubs responsibility, but I’m not sure how that links to City having anything to do with the prosecution, other than supplying cctv footage?

Have I misunderstood you or did you misunderstand my previous post?

When you enter the Etihad stadium you agree to abide by the terms and conditions of entering the stadium. One of those terms and conditions is your behaviour inside the stadium.

City have a state of the art security/CCTV room which gives them access to CCTV cameras all over the stadium, that would include SSL3.

There is a not so subtle CCTV camera hanging from the roof of the SSL1 concourse, behind block 115. I doubt many City fans have noticed it. It’s a small semi-ball shaped CCTV camera. I’ll take a picture of it on Sunday. I give the camera a wave every now and again. :-)

 

[Corky]

Do the police have their own box at CoMS like they had at the back of J Block in the Main Stand?

 

[jrb]

You can imagine how much better and high tech our security room and ground surveillance is inside and outside the Etihad.

Hibs vs Hearts, Easter Road Stadium, Police, G4S security control room feature, Fans, cctv​

 

[creditunionhero]

I noticed that the police were filming City fans in level 2 at the Everton game, sadly they were not doing so for the Liverpool game, wonder why. I have video of them doing it.

Surely the police could have filmed the Liverpool fans from the front of the third tier.

It would have been a deterrent, or been a record of what went on. Or would this be to obvious for GMP's brightest.

Perhaps they thought the scouse would behave after the joint email.

 

[Franny 1234]

I noticed that the police were filming City fans in level 2 at the Everton game, sadly they were not doing so for the Liverpool game, wonder why. I have video of them doing it.

Surely the police could have filmed the Liverpool fans from the front of the third tier.

It would have been a deterrent, or been a record of what went on. Or would this be to obvious for GMP's brightest.

Perhaps they thought the scouse would behave after the joint email.

I sit in block 211 South stand and police were stood at the back of us with cameras on a tripod recording the away fans against Liverpool and Everton.