VAR thread 2022/23

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Trevor Morley's Tache said:
BENT AS FUCK.
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Yep.

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I’ve posted many times I hate VAR and don’t think it’s fit for purpose yet at technology isn’t good or accurate enough. I never thought though that it was corrupt - just shit run by blokes that were equally as shit. After just seeing that on MOTD after a night out, I can come to no other confusion than that was corrupt! Absolutely stinks. The most blatant match fixing since Grobbalarr. I’m struggling to comprehend or understand what I just saw. Who was the VAR ref?
 
The referee and their officials and the VAR team know there is no Var definite camera angle at that end.

I don't know if same at other end or not.

As they are aware of this they know if they raise their flag, the VAR team will not overule that raised flag.

That brings open to abuse and corruption into play.

To prevent that opportunity, VAR should use whatever imagery they do have to see if it verifies an offside

Or not. If they cannot verify an infringement, in this case offside, then the goal should stand. Even moreso

this year, where if Lino is correct but they apply thicker lines, then the Lino red flag is overuled by VAR.
 
Bantamgaz said:
Amazing how for decades the offside rule worked with out all this phase bollocks :(

If the ball is played forward and your stood in an offside decision regardless if your interfering with play or not then your OFFSIDE is that to much to ask ?????
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Agree with this. Don't get me started on the new off-side rules. It's as if they have a shiny new toy in VAR and they are making more and more rules that try to turn off-side into a yes/no factual decision but every time they do it, they open up more detailed cases where a new rule is needed. There is no absolute certainty in science, or anything else including football.

Nobody on the planet would have had a problem with Salah's goal being ruled out for off-side. Only contrived rules meant to make the decision more factually correct fuck it all up.

I read Dale Johnson's view on this. Apparently, they have to determine a deliberate play or not. But then if someone is heading the ball, there should be more leeway. Then if they are jumping to head the ball, that is also taken into account. What next? The sun was out? Was it shining in his face? It was winter, so the sun was low? There were solar flares that day? You can go on and on with these dumb rules. He was offside when Gakpo attempted to play the ball to him. He gained an advantage by being offside. Blow the fucking whistle.
 
Gray said:
VAR does nothing, they just agree with the on field officials.

So what is the point of it?
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How about my 2 recent hammers examples ?

Cresswell got a ball smashed in his face and the ref awarded a penalty - until VAR over turned

Bowen got taken out in the box and the ref pointed for a goal kick - until VAR over turned and we got the penalty

There’s been loads and loads of these nailed on decisions where the officials got it completely wrong and VAR have been there to correct it - how can you say VAR does nothing and they just agree with the officials when that’s not been the case ?
 
BlueHammer85 said:
How about my 2 recent hammers examples ?

Cresswell got a ball smashed in his face and the ref awarded a penalty - until VAR over turned

Bowen got taken out in the box and the ref pointed for a goal kick - until VAR over turned and we got the penalty

There’s been loads and loads of these nailed on decisions where the officials got it completely wrong and VAR have been there to correct it - how can you say VAR does nothing and they just agree with the officials when that’s not been the case ?
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You can’t defend last night.

That’s the discussion here right now, last night and there is no point harping on about it getting something right now and then when the issue is it getting something so very wrong.

If it’s true that Anfield and Old Trafford for whatever reason are unable to implement the technology needed for VAR 100% then it’s a disgrace worthy of discussion at the highest levels.
 
blueinsa said:
You can’t defend last night.

That’s the discussion here right now, last night and there is no point harping on about it getting something right now and then when the issue is it getting something so very wrong.

If it’s true that Anfield and Old Trafford for whatever reason are unable to implement the technology needed for VAR 100% then it’s a disgrace worthy of discussion at the highest levels.
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Surely every PL stadium uses VAR, apart from what we have seen, has it been stated by the PL/PGMOL that these 2 don’t have it?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Surely every PL stadium uses VAR, apart from what we have seen, has it been stated by the PL/PGMOL that these 2 don’t have it?
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No but it seems likely given what is now being leaked more and more that for whatever reasons, there are issues with implementing the technology 100% at both grounds.

If it bollocks, fair enough but even Klopp said last night it’s the 2nd time at Anfield they can’t get all the angles needed so something isn’t right.

Remember the Rashford goal and how it was suddenly benefit of the doubt to the attacker? Not seen a single instance of that benefit since with equally tight calls?

Why?
 
The Future’s Blue! said:
Surely every PL stadium uses VAR, apart from what we have seen, has it been stated by the PL/PGMOL that these 2 don’t have it?
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They have it but, yesterday officials seemed to admit there is a blind spot* at Anfield. If it is not 100% accurate then it should not be used BUT they cannot allow Anfield to host games if they admit it isn't accurate.
The problem is there is no honesty or integrity in the PL or FA.
 
ancoats said:
We see things they'll never see ?
it's the loophole they use at both of them clubs to benefit and use against others.


just watched the highlights and HOW is Salah not offside or flagged offside
www.bbc.co.uk

Liverpool 2-2 Wolves: Julen Lopetegui says it is 'impossible' potential winner was ruled out

Boss Julen Lopetegui says it is "impossible" that Wolves had a potential winning goal ruled out in their FA Cup third-round draw at Liverpool.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk
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That's easy. Because Mike Dean is allowed to use his judgement. God help us.
 
blueinsa said:
You can’t defend last night.

That’s the discussion here right now, last night and there is no point harping on about it getting something right now and then when the issue is it getting something so very wrong.

If it’s true that Anfield and Old Trafford for whatever reason are unable to implement the technology needed for VAR 100% then it’s a disgrace worthy of discussion at the highest levels.
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And this is the crux of it all. Do we know if all grounds have the same VAR capability?

If not, the whole system is fkd. This is the real question arising from the revelation last night. How limited is VAR at Anfield or anywhere else for that matter?
 
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