18 | Stefan Ortega - 2022/23 Performances

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Poor positioning is a consequence of peps demands, it's unconventional and you can look a twat when that happens but that's what Pep asks for.

his starting position, despite what the commentary said wasn't the problem, Ederson is in that vulnerable position all the time, he's just quicker at reacting, problem was he didn't re-adjust quickly enough when any pass behind the line for him to sweep stopped being an option.

It's a mistake by him but it's not as big of a mistake as it would seem and for a guy that barely plays its unreasonable to not expect the odd one or two. Made a good save first half, he's comfortably the best second keeper we've had for a while and we would struggle to find better.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Poor positioning is a consequence of peps demands, it's unconventional and you can look a twat when that happens but that's what Pep asks for.

his starting position, despite what the commentary said wasn't the problem, Ederson is in that vulnerable position all the time, he's just quicker at reacting, problem was he didn't re-adjust quickly enough when any pass behind the line for him to sweep stopped being an option.

It's a mistake by him but it's not as big of a mistake as it would seem and for a guy that barely plays its unreasonable to not expect the odd one or two. Made a good save first half, he's comfortably the best second keeper we've had for a while and we would struggle to find better.
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Poor positioning,yea 5 miles off his line you can safely say poor positioning fuck me
 
Fucked up massively tonight but he's following Peps orders and playing as a sweeper keeper, and it cost us big time, Pep wants his keepers to play a high line and be confident with there feet, the problem is its backfiring, tonight with Ortega, last season in the fa Cup with Steffan against the murderers.
 
meeesh said:
Poor positioning,yea 5 miles off his line you can safely say poor positioning fuck me
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It was poor positioning, but it wasn't because he'd come out too far. He was there to create angles for the back pass and we gave away the ball. He didn't get back quickly enough.
Every keeper gets caught out occasionally. It was poor positioning but there was a reason why it was poor beyond stupidity.
 
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He better fucking not
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He was excellent against Chelsea in the Carabao Cup a few weeks ago.

It's impossible to find a perfect goalkeeper, much less one that's prepared to be second choice. Pep isn't going to drop him just because he made one mistake.
 
meeesh said:
Poor positioning,yea 5 miles off his line you can safely say poor positioning fuck me
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Like I said, his starting position was exactly what ederson does, people who look at keeping in the traditional way will say its a poor starting position but Pep demands it, can't call him out for something Pep insists on. the entire high backline relies on him being in a poor starting position to sweep.

As I said, his error was he was too slow to react to the play and backtrack, it's a minor error really but it's costly when it's punished like that and looks ridiuclous.

He can also justifiably ask why the fuck did our defence let Djenepo have all the time in the world 20-25 yards out to pull off a casual chip, if walker engages as he should, he doesn't get the opportunity to do that.
 
ninjamonkey said:
Like I said, his starting position was exactly what ederson does, people who look at keeping in the traditional way will say its a poor starting position but Pep demands it, can't call him out for something Pep insists on. the entire high backline relies on him being in a poor starting position to sweep.

As I said, his error was he was too slow to react to the play and backtrack, it's a minor error really but it's costly when it's punished like that and looks ridiuclous.

He can also justifiably ask why the fuck did our defence let Djenepo have all the time in the world 20-25 yards out to pull off a casual chip, if walker engages as he should, he doesn't get the opportunity to do that.
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Stop talking sense on here!
 
He was giddy all night. Even in the 2nd half when we had a measure of control he was still in the wrong position on occasion. Everyone’s allowed a bad day at the office though, lets he hope he puts this behind him and turns in a better performance against Arsenal.
 
Superb tonight

Clearly been asked to play direct into Haaland which didn't really work, but I dare say he made a couple of saves that Ederson may not have
 
Did great tonight but his last game wasn't too clever to behonest (although the team did follow suit)
 
Really making a name for himself with performances like that ... I wouldn't be surprised if he moved on to be a starter.
 
He played really well today. Liked the fact he looked for Haaland a lot too. Erling will get better at winning possession upfield too
 
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