Ref Watch

CityFan1970 said:
Previously, when the ball is passed to a player in an offside position, and he knows he is offside, we've seen that player stop moving, or move away from the ball and put his arms in the air to tell the ref, "I'm not interfering". What happened today has changed all that and set a new precedent - the player can now follow the ball, without touching it and be deemed to be not offside.
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if Rashford stops running, there is no way Bruno get nears the ball and both city defenders and keeper would clear the ball, the fact Rashford keeps running towards the ball makes both city defenders and the keeper to act, so Rashford is interfering with play,

also the linesman should be flagging early like he did for the city players in the game, Foden a couple of times was clear and a early flag was waved stopping the play, it's shocking and a gift that will get rewarded in a brown paper bag
 
I was a big proponent for VAR, but then I heard a former ref on TV say that Mahrez was fouled, and the foul was in the penalty area, but the ref was brave to not give a penalty as he went down a bit weird.

Wonder what became of that former ref?

By the way, I saw the light back then what VAR would be like. Its worse than I feared.
 
Another thing that that has been lost in the noise after this result is how many times Mahrez was cynically fouled today without the ref reaching for his cards.

It took until the 65th minute for Ericsson to get carded for a pretty innocuous challenge on Grealish. At this point Marhez had been had been fouled about 5 or 6 times, and by the end of the game it was up to about 8 fouls. Each one cynically breaking up a promising attack.
 
moomba said:
I was a big proponent for VAR, but then I heard a former ref on TV say that Mahrez was fouled, and the foul was in the penalty area, but the ref was brave to not give a penalty as he went down a bit weird.

Wonder what became of that former ref?

By the way, I saw the light back then what VAR would be like. Its worse than I feared.
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Is he the current head of the PGMOL?
 
levets said:
When var was first introduced they told us that it would only be used in a case of ‘obvious error’. They Further said there is no ‘obvious error’ with an offside decision as it is factual; offside or onside and no subjectivity. However this is not the case as subjectivity creeps in where interpretation of the (factual) offside law is permitted/applied. Rashford by running with the ball becomes ‘active’ and as he is the ‘Target’ for the pass he should have been called offside. If this is not changed/challenged then the whole method of a defending high needs to be re-assessed. Akanji moved up and played him offside. What happened next was totally against the spirit of the law. Of course he was interfering with play, just by running with the ball towards goal he is interfering, as his actions absolutely influenced our defenders
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He knew he was offside - the evidence being the fact that he avoided touching the ball.
With that knowledge in his mind, his further participation in the move- ie his continued run adjacent to the ball, which was designed to distract defenders and goalkeeper, was a conscious decision to interfere with play.
It cannot possibly be seen as anything else.
 
CityFan1970 said:
Previously, when the ball is passed to a player in an offside position, and he knows he is offside, we've seen that player stop moving, or move away from the ball and put his arms in the air to tell the ref, "I'm not interfering". What happened today has changed all that and set a new precedent - the player can now follow the ball, without touching it and be deemed to be not offside.
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As long as they're wearing red
 
Roachy said:
This is the crux of it. You will see similar all season in other games where the player is offside and moves towards the ball, ref or linesman straight away stops play which in turn makes a mockery of that decision this afternoon.
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This happened today, there's a video on the tweet after the pic

 
ancoats said:
if Rashford stops running, there is no way Bruno get nears the ball and both city defenders and keeper would clear the ball, the fact Rashford keeps running towards the ball makes both city defenders and the keeper to act, so Rashford is interfering with play,

also the linesman should be flagging early like he did for the city players in the game, Foden a couple of times was clear and a early flag was waved stopping the play, it's shocking and a gift that will get rewarded in a brown paper bag
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Same lino wasn't it?
 
bluetonium said:
He cheated today, plain and simple. Bent the laws of interpretation to give the desired outcome and the Gabe got away from him

Malacia... 7 fouls on Mahrez, no yellow... They know what they're doing...
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I agree with this.
Yes we've lost a bit of form but in a lot of games its looked like open season on our players.
We make 1 tackle and its a yellow.
Its systematic and bent
 
ancoats said:
if Rashford stops running, there is no way Bruno get nears the ball and both city defenders and keeper would clear the ball, the fact Rashford keeps running towards the ball makes both city defenders and the keeper to act, so Rashford is interfering with play,

also the linesman should be flagging early like he did for the city players in the game, Foden a couple of times was clear and a early flag was waved stopping the play, it's shocking and a gift that will get rewarded in a brown paper bag
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Akanji and Ederson both reacted differently because Rashford played on if you like. If he’d have stopped running then fair enough, play on.
 
Trevor Morley's Tache said:
Same lino wasn't it?
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Nick Murphy on Twitter: Premier League assistant referee Darren Cann is on Pointless. This is not a drill. https://t.co/1IU35pOY3T / Twitter
 
Eds said:
At the beginning of I think this season we were told that in the case of tight offsides and if there was an immediate goal scoring opportunity then the flag should stay down and if a goal was scored then the flag would be raised and VAR would look at it. Remember the Mahrez goal against the rags earlier this season. Flag was raised after he scored and pretty much everyone thought he was offside. VAR looked at it and it was a goal. Foden was flagged straight away today because there was no immediate goal scoring opportunity. That said it was incredibly tight. Now this is where it gets interesting as the liner must have known Rashford was off and was at least two yards off so not a tight call at all. He couldn’t have seen any other player straight away to conclude it was an immediate goal scoring opportunity with a tight offside call. Have the instructions to the liners changed? Was he 100% certain Foden was off in the first half yet then decided that two yards off was a tight call as so no flag. Not sure why VAR didn’t check goal unless on the comms Twatwell said that whilst offside he didn’t think player was interfering. If that is the case then he needs to be suspended for the rest of the season for rewriting the LOTG mid season. Whichever way you look at it this goal has corruption / bias / incompetence written all over it and the club needs to raise serious concerns. Fucked over today and against Neverton. Coincidence, I don’t think so
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What are you saying has changed I am confused
 
Unfortunately the club will do nothing,sometimes you keep your powder dry and take the medicine but it’s happened too many times at the least we should be asking for atwell and Oliver on VAR not to ref or VAR our games again until they can be seen to be neutral..
 
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