The worst thing about farcical officiating

Looby blue said:
We only bitch about refs when we're not getting results, every season we have a bad run (except for maybe the centurions season). It's a blip, it happens, it's shit and we all feel everything is finished. Last season when Spurs beat us at home I thought it was over and Liverpool were gonna win it, I remember Palace beating us at home a few years ago when Andros Thownsend scored that thundercunt volley and I was filled with dread thinking were falling apart. We always seem to struggle with results around December and January and, due to the world cup, in terms of fixtures we are at the beginning of January if this were a normal season. When we beat Arsenal in early January last year with that last minute Rodri goal I remember thinking the result is papering over the cracks because we haven't been playing well. We went on to win the league and were a few minutes away from a champions league final.

Fuck the refs, Pep has proved time and time again that when we're in the shit we come out the other side smelling of roses, and believe me when that happens none of you will give a toss about crappy, incompetent refs because it won't matter.
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it will fucking matter.
It might be the difference between the barcodes or Brighton or Fulham getting into the chumps league and the rags missing out again.
Fucking right it matters.
 
Looby blue said:
We only bitch about refs when we're not getting results, every season we have a bad run (except for maybe the centurions season). It's a blip, it happens, it's shit and we all feel everything is finished. Last season when Spurs beat us at home I thought it was over and Liverpool were gonna win it, I remember Palace beating us at home a few years ago when Andros Thownsend scored that thundercunt volley and I was filled with dread thinking were falling apart. We always seem to struggle with results around December and January and, due to the world cup, in terms of fixtures we are at the beginning of January if this were a normal season. When we beat Arsenal in early January last year with that last minute Rodri goal I remember thinking the result is papering over the cracks because we haven't been playing well. We went on to win the league and were a few minutes away from a champions league final.

Fuck the refs, Pep has proved time and time again that when we're in the shit we come out the other side smelling of roses, and believe me when that happens none of you will give a toss about crappy, incompetent refs because it won't matter.
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I will still care, because it’s ultimately about the integrity of the competition, not just City. It should be sport for entertainment, not partially scripted entertainment costumed as sport.
 
I bitch about refs when we get an undeserved advantage. Remember the penalty Sterling won in the chumps league by falling over his own feet with no opponent within 3 yards of him.
He knew it wasn’t a penalty and the ref had fucked up. I would have love to see that penalty taken with sportsmanship in mind and him putting it out for a throw in, but fucks chance of that happening.
Every team, including us cheat at some level, whether its claiming a throw in when its bounced off one of our team. Some call it gaining an advantage, I call it cheating. St Fishfinger knew what he was doing, its cheating, I get why he did it. I don’t blame him for doing it because that is the modern game.
 
Blueboy73 said:
No, a foul is given to the attacker even though he's in an offside position but it's the law.
Akanji knew this which is why he didn't just wipe him out.
The offside law (law 11) is objective not subjective.
All this bollocks about subjective and grey areas is a red herring used to try and deflect from the simple fact that Attwell failed to implement the laws of the game.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
 
I've had time to consider this at length since weekend. I've listened to various other retired referees give their opinion and my thoughts are thus:
Atwell is a cheating ****, no other possibility. Nobody can be that incompetent having refereed professionally to not understand the simple definition of interfering with play which goes above the standard of merely touching the ball. To suggest sprinting after the ball, shielding it and feigning a shot isn't interfering with play is ludicrous and nonsensical.
Most football people have come to the realisation that the smokescreen given by PGMOL lackeys of supposed subjectivity is utter bullshit.
We have been had over by these cunts and I'm still fucking livid. Now theyre pissing down our necks and telling us it's raining.
 
Bluearmy said:
That's the roy carroll pic in my original post!!

Yes i know there are loads more. Nani handballed one and clattenberg gave the goal from memory. I just limited it to a personal top 3….

As you say there’s loads. All for the same team, all at the same ground, decision after decision….. it stinks
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Yeah I know mate, that's why I mentioned the Roy Carroll/ Pedro Mendes one, almost 20 years ago and still stick in the mind, there aren't many that do but a disproportionate number seem to be at the swamp and benefit the rags.
Fans of other clubs see it too.
 
Blueboy73 said:
Yeah I know mate, that's why I mentioned the Roy Carroll/ Pedro Mendes one, almost 20 years ago and still stick in the mind, there aren't many that do but a disproportionate number seem to be at the swamp and benefit the rags.
Fans of other clubs see it too.
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Mentioned that spurs goal yesterday in work.
Also the mythical penalty they got against us in the Cup around 96.
Keane thought he'd been penalised and began to sprint at the ref who smiled and said Roy calm down I'm giving your team a pen.
Was it off a corner that went 30 yrs above everyone's head in the box but somehow we were penalised for something.
The list goes on and on involving these cnuts and we and other football clubs supporters are expected to just put up with it because apart from walking away from football we can't do f*ck all about it.
It f*cking stinks
 
buckshot said:
So many of you are acting like Michael Owen never scored in the 8th of 5 minutes of added time. This shit has been happening for years and it's gonna keep happening.
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Agreed. But in the era of VAR, it is becoming even more obvious (and brazen). And I still maintain it has escalated based on a desperation to find any way to have a different league winner.
 
Blueboy73 said:
Offside is objective not subjective, the rules are there in black and white and there is no grey areaView attachment 66224
Rashford was offside - confirmed by replays and the lineman flag.
He was interfering with play - shielding the ball by continuing to run between Akanji and the ball, thus preventing Akanji gaining possession. The lying bastard even tried to claim he stopped running when interviewed!
He gained an advantage - shielding the ball, stopping Akanji and Ederson getting to the ball by continuing his run, distracting Akanji, Ederson and possibly Walker.
His actions were an obvious action which clearly impacts the ability of an opponent to play the ball - dummying to shoot, shielding the ball from Akanji which stopped him getting to it and running towards goal which stopped Ederson coming out and gaining possession.
Ederson wouldn't know if he was offside or not, Akanji suspected he was offside but played to the whistle and knew he would be penalised regardless if he committed a foul meaning all he could do was follow Rashford (who stopped Akanji gaining possession from an offside position)
The linesman delayed his flag as instructed then raised it at the end of the phase as he knew it was offside.
The problem was Attwell failing to apply the laws, took him literally seconds to over rule his linesman despite being well away from the action.
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I think he should have been called offside, but that doesn't mean it isn't a subjective decision.

Being in an offside position, or a ball crossing a line, are objective decisions. They are straight yes/no decisions.

The very fact that people are disagreeing about this suggests it's subjective. I think in Rashford's case it crosses the threshold for an offence, but if I wanted to I could easily make a case for him being onside based on the exact rules you've just posted.
 
bluenova said:
I think he should have been called offside, but that doesn't mean it isn't a subjective decision.

Being in an offside position, or a ball crossing a line, are objective decisions. They are straight yes/no decisions.

The very fact that people are disagreeing about this suggests it's subjective. I think in Rashford's case it crosses the threshold for an offence, but if I wanted to I could easily make a case for him being onside based on the exact rules you've just posted.
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It’s only subjective because those in control want you to believe that, how many times have any of us used that word before incidents like these? It’s subliminal, it met the criteria X3 what’s subjective about that? What you’re suggesting (maybe you aren’t?) is it should meet all the criteria, or bullet points as Despot Dermot called them (as if to make them seem not important) I’ll say it again….it met the criteria three times over when only one would be necessary, when I say criteria I mean one of the laws of the game by which football adheres too, you’re making it sound like it comes down to who has the strongest argument, when in reality the only questions that needed asking where:-
1. Did he touch the ball ? No
2. Did he interfere with play Yes
Therefore he is offside, No goal! It was as conclusive an offside as I’ve ever seen
 
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