PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Skip Donoghue said:
That's the thing they can't align it with the CAS verdict as the time barred evidence City have wasn't presented

The EPL want to see this evidence and this is what this is really about, seeing what City have to refute the EPLs claims, once that's looked at this whole thing falls apart and City know it hence

"we look forward to putting this thing to bed once and for all"
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It Was presented. It wasn't taken into consideration because it wasn't needed to, the other evidence was sufficient. The PL, according to numerous lawyers writing on it including the young guy on youtube in his bedroom, have the same time barred element to 6 years. Unless, they have reason to believe they need to make an exception. Which they must have had, if charges go back to 2009.
 
Skip Donoghue said:
That's the thing they can't align it with the CAS verdict as the time barred evidence City have wasn't presented

The EPL want to see this evidence and this is what this is really about, seeing what City have to refute the EPLs claims, once that's looked at this whole thing falls apart and City know it hence

"we look forward to putting this thing to bed once and for all"
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We did present at CAS for the Etisalat stuff that was time barred. The Mancini issue I think is the more concerning though and that wasn’t covered at all, nor the image rights stuff.
 
Skip Donoghue said:
No he's not, unless he's knows something we don't

why would any time barred evidence City have been presented at CAS, it hasn't and that's what the Premier League want to see. IMO, obviously
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It was, according to the club. It was said on more than one occasion.
 
Bill the Blue said:
Just stepping back and weighing things up here..

We were taken over in 2008 and had investment pumped into our club to enable us to complete with the likes of the rags, dippers, tarquins and chavs who between them had enjoyed a bit of a carve up with regards to winning leagues and cups and in turn benefitting from the millions of £'s CL qualification had to offer.

In what then appeared to be a fit of panic, new PL rules were quickly being assembled to ensure we wouldn't be to gate-crash the closed shop party.

However, because we were professional, clever and smart, we managed to get into the castle just before the drawbridge closed.

Obviously, the usual suspects were well pissed off..

From thereon in, not only did we build a team capable of competing with the chosen few, we assembled a management infrastructure that blew the old guard completely away.

The old ways where owners such as the Glazers, Kronke's and FSG's systematically syphoned off £100's of millions out of their clubs was being shown up for what it was..'pure greed'..!

The Glazers have taken out £1.1 billion pounds out of the rags since 2005 and have still not repaid anything anywhere near substantial off the £500 million pounds debt they originally dumped on the club.

Not a fkin peep about about this from the cnuts in the media btw..

Bingo, constantly whinging about the unfairness of it all whilst wasting untold millions on cart horses, this after spending £130 million pounds plus on a goalie and centre back. The fkin hypocrite..

City's new owners were not only investing in the team and management infanstructure, they were investing in East Manchester, generating 100's of local jobs, building a state of the art training complex and extending and improving stadium facilities..

All along, during this time you had the usual suspects looking at what we were doing with complete disgust..

City's owners were showing the rest of the PL and wider watching world how a football club should be run..

The watching world however were not impressed. They were far from happy that our club had 'elbowed it's way', albeit legitimately, onto the top table.

The G14 were getting rather pissed off too it seemed.

City soon faced charges of cheating and corruption, threats of CL expulsion and heavy fines.

Yet another obstacle for us to climb over.

Well guess what, we faced these charges head on and not only were we cleared of all the shit levied at us, we once again showed up the entitled establishment for what it was, a jumped up kangaroo court, backed by jealous, greedy owners of clubs who over the years had creamed off untold £millions without a thought for anyone else..

Over all this time, City went about their business on the field, playing mesmerising football, breaking record after record and winning stuff..

Let's not forget, Silva, Toure, Zabletta, Hart, Lescott, Clichy, Aguero, Nazri, Dzeko, Barry and the like were not the established world stars of the day.

I remember the media piss taking by one and all when Kaka turned us down, what was it ? Oh yeah, "you might have the money but you haven't got the class or history"..

They soon changed their tune however, when from 8 points behind with 6 games to play in 2012, we won the league in scenes that will never be bettered on SKYsports TV..

It was written in the stars that Ferguson and his rags team would win the PL that year.

Let's not forget, it would have been the rags 5th PL title in 6 years, btw, not a fkin peep out of the media twats about how unfair the rags dominance was back then, not a fkin squeak..

Ferguson had already been humiliated at the swamp 6-1 and had lost the return game at the Etihad in the most one sided1-0 you will ever had seen.

His team shit themselves that night and never crossed the halfway line, let alone had a shot on our goal..

Sergio's goal killed him, his team and the PL on that day.

At that precise time, I can safely say that I had never been happier in life..

Behind the scenes though, the chosen few were boiling with rage.

Not only had City beaten them on the pitch, they had fkin smashed them off it too..

The powers that be then wheeled in VAR and sold it as the tool to end all doubt, no more grey areas, dodgy decisions, unfair calls and confusion.

It's been and still is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, Rashford's 'goal' was a fkin bent, blatent cheating, scandalous fkin decision..

Fast forward to today, the chavs ownership has changed and yet another yank has appeared on the scene.


The chavs have managed to write off £1.5 billion pounds worth of loans Abramovich had saddled them with and they have just gone and spunked in the region of £600 million on new players.

Not a fkin peep out of the twats at SKY or the usual media twats about FFP, dodgy dealings or unfairness of it all, not a fkin peep..

The rags and dippers are now being hawked around all and sundry and my guess is it's because their yank owners have finally realised that we in the UK are not the US.

We don't run our football clubs as franchises where there is no relegation or promotion and you get to cream the money off year in year out..

You invest, build, nurture, manage and plan. You then compete on a level playing field and work hard to win stuff..

Apparently not any more you fkin don't..!

In yet another roll of the dice, the PL have delved back in time to 2009 to rummage through our accounts to see what they can now stick us with..

Our accounts that btw have been meticulously pawed over time and again prior to being signed off as true and correct back in the day..

Never mind that though, over 100 charges apparently, all the usual suspects are now giddy as fcuk, baying for us to be hit with relegation, title stripping, expulsion, points deduction... All of these they all scream..

Well guess what you bunch of bent fcukers, we've beaten you on and off the pitch, we've beaten you at the CAS and I have 100% faith that we'll beat you again..

Our owners have remained firm time and again and have shown their commitment to City by fighting all these allegations off for years and I'm certain that they are not going to throw the towel in now.

We are a £4billion pound giant of the game with the highest turnover in world football..

That's why I have complete trust in the guys that run our club..

That's why I know we're not going to go away into the darkness lightly..

That's why I'm confident that we are going to straighten this out once and for all..

However, I don't want us just to finally clear our name, I want my pound of flesh..

I sincerely hope that we blow these fcukers out of the water and if that means we sue their arses off in court after this is done and the PL collapses into itself then that'll be a good start as far as I'm concerned..


We have been waiting for this day to finally arrive, we will be fully prepared and I'm convinced that we'll prevail..!
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This must be one of my favourite posts of all time. Thanks
 
Skip Donoghue said:
No he's not, unless he's knows something we don't

why would any time barred evidence City have been presented at CAS, it hasn't and that's what the Premier League want to see. IMO, obviously
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I was more thinking that CAS proceedings are private and confidential. I can't imagine they just hand filed evidence out to other people. The only thing people see is the award.
 
Bez said:
If there is no right of appeal and the PL rules state that they can impose unlimited fines, what is stopping them fining City 1 trillion pounone million dollars.jpg
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I don’t see this huge play from Abu Dhabi (this take it or leave it offer) I generally think they take everything on their own merit.

That said, you could imagine if they felt it was needed a conversation could be had, that this issue is unfounded and a cause of embarrassment to ABU, that they would find it agreeable for a compromise to be meet that allowed both parties to move on if the serious accusations where dropped.

Que a large fine and nothing else to see.

City are more than an investment to them and I think they are emotionally connected to the club. Not only that it is one of the most outward facing investments.
 
John Wayne said:
Anyone else feeling a bit burnt out?
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A little bit mate, I won’t lie.

But then I remember the burning hatred I have for all things Red, that caused of all this shit and I feel fired up and ready to go.

It’s very sad however as I’ve had a major falling out with my lifelong friend of nearly 50 years about this. He’s a red.
During the uefa case he kept his thoughts to hisself, largely because he suspected - correctly - that we would be cleared but he’s gone all in this time and said some things that belie his true thought process about “dirty Arabs” and such like.
I’m not sure our friendship will survive to be honest. Which I admit is equally pathetic on my part too as it’s only a game but, for me, it is the rank unfairness and hypocrisy of the whole charade that grinds my gears. And friends of 50 years rubbing my nose in it whilst gloating in my face will be hard to forgive easily.

But remember, when this is over and we are vindicated, the payback will truly be a sight to see. It’ll make the cas verdict look like a kids tea party in comparison.
And make no mistake mate, we will be vindicated.

One more thing… for a good while now I have considered myself to have a bigger hatred of Liverpool fc but this last few days have caused me to reevaluate that.

We’ve seen ten years of pent up jealousy, hatred, and fear come bubbling up to the surface with the real red cunts and I for one, can not and will not forget the things I’ve had said to me this week.

Superbia in Proelio
 
Coatigan said:
It Was presented. It wasn't taken into consideration because it wasn't needed to, the other evidence was sufficient. The PL, according to numerous lawyers writing on it including the young guy on youtube in his bedroom, jave the same time barred element to 6 years, Unless, they have reason to believe they need to make an exception. Which they must have had, if charges go back to 2009.
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OK but, so let's say the time barred evidence was presented, why would CAS even bother looking at it, its irrelevant, a waste of time

Can anyone say for certain that the time barred evidence City has is available in the CAS files?

And has anyone seen this evidence at the Premier League, surely they would have not taken 4 years to bring this forward if they knew City's evidence was bogus

if I was the Premier League I would like to see it and if I was City I would like to produce it
 
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halfcenturyup said:
Can you point me to one? Genuinely interested.
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I will try, but with so much of this gone on, might take a bit of time to dig up what I remember reading. It has stuck with me though, because I felt partly disappointed that it wasn't a 'full' vindication and left that stick to get beat with, which the media have and still do use.
 
Coatigan said:
It was, according to the club. It was said on more than one occasion.
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I get that, but presenting it and someone actually looking at it and then documenting it are totally different things
I'm guessing here but I would have thought that the evidence was produced by City and CAS said no need it's time barred, let's move on
 
Coatigan said:
It Was presented. It wasn't taken into consideration because it wasn't needed to, the other evidence was sufficient. The PL, according to numerous lawyers writing on it including the young guy on youtube in his bedroom, have the same time barred element to 6 years. Unless, they have reason to believe they need to make an exception. Which they must have had, if charges go back to 2009.
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Oh, is that what we are talking about? I thought we were talking about the PL having CAS's files ...... Sorry.

Are we sure the Etisalat evidence was actually presented, or was it just explained in the club's submission?
 
Coatigan said:
I will try, but with so much of this gone on, might take a bit of time to dig up what I remember reading. It has stuck with me though, because I felt partly disappointed that it wasn't a 'full' vindication and left that stick to get beat with, which the media have and still do use.
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Doesn't matter. We were talking at cross purposes :)
 
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