PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

Roy Munson said:
Mate, seriously, unless you're fishing, I expected better of you.

This meeting is fuck all to do with current events. It's a meeting that happens at least 3 times a year.

The Mail are turning into something it isn't. Awful, incendiary, tribalistic shite.

Edit... Apologies, just seen your recent posts.
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Already back tracked. See previous posts. As a rule I think twice before posting anything and making knee jerk comments . This one caught me off guard. Some times you have to hold your hands up and admit you got it wrong. I got it wrong. :-(
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
I think that UEFA looked at it, as part of their original investigation after Der Spiegel published it. But once CAS decided what the relevant cut-off date was, I doubt it was examined as part of that hearing. Some of it would have been earlier Etihad payments. so there should be no issue there. Another time-barred sponsorship was one from Etisalat, where Der Spiegel showed this had apparently been paid by ADUG iirc. But we know how selective DS were and I definitely recall seeing something about Etisalat later repaying ADUG.
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Yep, they paid ADUG for the full amounts of all the years due after the delayed signature of a new contract. DS showed the emails talking about the money from ADUG to MCFC but didn't have, or chose not to show, those relating to the payment to ADUG by Etisalat. So in a nutshell, Etisalat had binding contracts to sponsor MCFC, MCFC fully provided the sponsorship services and were right to show the sponsorship income (even if it wasn't actually paid by Etisalat), and Etisalat paid in full for those services according to the contract. Eventually.

I think. A bit messy, but it's hardly Enron. And although the numbers aren't in the CAS award document, I doubt it was tens of millions.

All this is in the CAS award document if anyone wants to check.
 
Jazzyblue said:
I've got loads of Red mates too - and family. Never once rubbed the Glazer situation in their faces. Always sympathised. Always acknowledged when they've done something I felt was admirable. Horrible behaviour on his part but always sad to lose a friend - I hope you guys patch it up and before long he'll be crying about something - the Super League, the Glazers, some scandal...and you can take the high ground.
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Shag his wife, get a new friend.
 
mexico1970 said:
Every fan of every other club needs to take a long hard look at this, the meritocracy in sport is what makes it competitive this is just about money.
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Like ourselves, the fans are powerless. Aside from protesting they have to accept anything their club does. Most know this but will still take the piss out of us as it's what they do. They need to ask why their owners voted for ffp as it was obvious it would leave them outside the top table looking upwards forever.
 
Dukefan9 said:
Either A. City or the PL has vastly overrated their evidence in this case and is walking into a big surprise or B. The PL knows they don’t have the necessary proof but was pressured into this in order to drag City into a legal fight to disrupt transfer plans to the benefit of our rivals (Bellingham)
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I'll have a B please Bob.
 
citysince88 said:
Given the new announcement regarding ESL, Perhaps the prem are pushing ahead to stop the hateful 8 from backing it. If the prem can nobble us to appease them?

I appreciate the ESL replaces the champs league but how long would it really be before the domestic leagues suffered.
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An interesting theory if i've read it correctly (but I have had an afternoon session) that the Prem even with a ragess at the top are hanging out the red shirts to dry, maybe it's happening as the rags are going Arab?
 
jrb said:
Already back tracked. See previous posts. As a rule I think twice before posting anything and making knee jerk comments . This one caught me off guard. Some times you have to hold your hands up and admit you got it wrong. I got it wrong. :-(
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Mate we all do it, don’t sweat it. You posted it in good faith.
 
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paulchapo said:
Like ourselves, the fans are powerless. Aside from protesting they have to accept anything their club does. Most know this but will still take the piss out of us as it's what they do. They need to ask why their owners voted for ffp as it was obvious it would leave them outside the top table looking upwards forever.
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What we could do is not go, not turn up mate.

Completely empty stadiums wouldn't look great for selling a product, they haven't got enough day trippers to make a fist of it yet.
 
Bill the Blue said:
Just stepping back and weighing things up here..

We were taken over in 2008 and had investment pumped into our club to enable us to complete with the likes of the rags, dippers, tarquins and chavs who between them had enjoyed a bit of a carve up with regards to winning leagues and cups and in turn benefitting from the millions of £'s CL qualification had to offer.

In what then appeared to be a fit of panic, new PL rules were quickly being assembled to ensure we wouldn't be to gate-crash the closed shop party.

However, because we were professional, clever and smart, we managed to get into the castle just before the drawbridge closed.

Obviously, the usual suspects were well pissed off..

From thereon in, not only did we build a team capable of competing with the chosen few, we assembled a management infrastructure that blew the old guard completely away.

The old ways where owners such as the Glazers, Kronke's and FSG's systematically syphoned off £100's of millions out of their clubs was being shown up for what it was..'pure greed'..!

The Glazers have taken out £1.1 billion pounds out of the rags since 2005 and have still not repaid anything anywhere near substantial off the £500 million pounds debt they originally dumped on the club.

Not a fkin peep about about this from the cnuts in the media btw..

Bingo, constantly whinging about the unfairness of it all whilst wasting untold millions on cart horses, this after spending £130 million pounds plus on a goalie and centre back. The fkin hypocrite..

City's new owners were not only investing in the team and management infanstructure, they were investing in East Manchester, generating 100's of local jobs, building a state of the art training complex and extending and improving stadium facilities..

All along, during this time you had the usual suspects looking at what we were doing with complete disgust..

City's owners were showing the rest of the PL and wider watching world how a football club should be run..

The watching world however were not impressed. They were far from happy that our club had 'elbowed it's way', albeit legitimately, onto the top table.

The G14 were getting rather pissed off too it seemed.

City soon faced charges of cheating and corruption, threats of CL expulsion and heavy fines.

Yet another obstacle for us to climb over.

Well guess what, we faced these charges head on and not only were we cleared of all the shit levied at us, we once again showed up the entitled establishment for what it was, a jumped up kangaroo court, backed by jealous, greedy owners of clubs who over the years had creamed off untold £millions without a thought for anyone else..

Over all this time, City went about their business on the field, playing mesmerising football, breaking record after record and winning stuff..

Let's not forget, Silva, Toure, Zabletta, Hart, Lescott, Clichy, Aguero, Nazri, Dzeko, Barry and the like were not the established world stars of the day.

I remember the media piss taking by one and all when Kaka turned us down, what was it ? Oh yeah, "you might have the money but you haven't got the class or history"..

They soon changed their tune however, when from 8 points behind with 6 games to play in 2012, we won the league in scenes that will never be bettered on SKYsports TV..

It was written in the stars that Ferguson and his rags team would win the PL that year.

Let's not forget, it would have been the rags 5th PL title in 6 years, btw, not a fkin peep out of the media twats about how unfair the rags dominance was back then, not a fkin squeak..

Ferguson had already been humiliated at the swamp 6-1 and had lost the return game at the Etihad in the most one sided1-0 you will ever had seen.

His team shit themselves that night and never crossed the halfway line, let alone had a shot on our goal..

Sergio's goal killed him, his team and the PL on that day.

At that precise time, I can safely say that I had never been happier in life..

Behind the scenes though, the chosen few were boiling with rage.

Not only had City beaten them on the pitch, they had fkin smashed them off it too..

The powers that be then wheeled in VAR and sold it as the tool to end all doubt, no more grey areas, dodgy decisions, unfair calls and confusion.

It's been and still is a clusterfuck of epic proportions, Rashford's 'goal' was a fkin bent, blatent cheating, scandalous fkin decision..

Fast forward to today, the chavs ownership has changed and yet another yank has appeared on the scene.


The chavs have managed to write off £1.5 billion pounds worth of loans Abramovich had saddled them with and they have just gone and spunked in the region of £600 million on new players.

Not a fkin peep out of the twats at SKY or the usual media twats about FFP, dodgy dealings or unfairness of it all, not a fkin peep..

The rags and dippers are now being hawked around all and sundry and my guess is it's because their yank owners have finally realised that we in the UK are not the US.

We don't run our football clubs as franchises where there is no relegation or promotion and you get to cream the money off year in year out..

You invest, build, nurture, manage and plan. You then compete on a level playing field and work hard to win stuff..

Apparently not any more you fkin don't..!

In yet another roll of the dice, the PL have delved back in time to 2009 to rummage through our accounts to see what they can now stick us with..

Our accounts that btw have been meticulously pawed over time and again prior to being signed off as true and correct back in the day..

Never mind that though, over 100 charges apparently, all the usual suspects are now giddy as fcuk, baying for us to be hit with relegation, title stripping, expulsion, points deduction... All of these they all scream..

Well guess what you bunch of bent fcukers, we've beaten you on and off the pitch, we've beaten you at the CAS and I have 100% faith that we'll beat you again..

Our owners have remained firm time and again and have shown their commitment to City by fighting all these allegations off for years and I'm certain that they are not going to throw the towel in now.

We are a £4billion pound giant of the game with the highest turnover in world football..

That's why I have complete trust in the guys that run our club..

That's why I know we're not going to go away into the darkness lightly..

That's why I'm confident that we are going to straighten this out once and for all..

However, I don't want us just to finally clear our name, I want my pound of flesh..

I sincerely hope that we blow these fcukers out of the water and if that means we sue their arses off in court after this is done and the PL collapses into itself then that'll be a good start as far as I'm concerned..


We have been waiting for this day to finally arrive, we will be fully prepared and I'm convinced that we'll prevail..!
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in particular, in the allegation of structural bias made by MCFC (which appeared to have led to a change in the rules in the appointment of arbitrators in 2020), (ii) maintaining appropriate standards of fairness in the conduct of arbitrations and (iii) there being some explanation for the delay in the present case, where the investigation was made public in March 2019 but had hardly advanced since then.

Re the appeal for privacy...

Structural bias made by us which resulted in a change in the rules in the appointment of arbitrators in 2020?

Can some explain for me?
 
M18CTID said:
There's talk of a possible whistleblower within City's ranks in the form of former player/employee. I think that's pretty much the only way something like that can be proven, and I'm guessing even then that they'd need documentary evidence to back the claims up. In any case, that assumes that we've done something so incredibly stupid in the first place and I'm really not having it that we have. Differing interpretations of certain aspects of the accounts I can understand - as is what happened when we sanctioned by UEFA way back in 2014 - and disagreements about the Mancini stuff, but that's much lower level stuff than large scale accounting fraud.
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Imagine if gurning Chappie was the leak.
 
Kazzydeyna said:
A little bit mate, I won’t lie.

But then I remember the burning hatred I have for all things Red, that caused of all this shit and I feel fired up and ready to go.

It’s very sad however as I’ve had a major falling out with my lifelong friend of nearly 50 years about this. He’s a red.
During the uefa case he kept his thoughts to hisself, largely because he suspected - correctly - that we would be cleared but he’s gone all in this time and said some things that belie his true thought process about “dirty Arabs” and such like.
I’m not sure our friendship will survive to be honest. Which I admit is equally pathetic on my part too as it’s only a game but, for me, it is the rank unfairness and hypocrisy of the whole charade that grinds my gears. And friends of 50 years rubbing my nose in it whilst gloating in my face will be hard to forgive easily.

But remember, when this is over and we are vindicated, the payback will truly be a sight to see. It’ll make the cas verdict look like a kids tea party in comparison.
And make no mistake mate, we will be vindicated.

One more thing… for a good while now I have considered myself to have a bigger hatred of Liverpool fc but this last few days have caused me to reevaluate that.

We’ve seen ten years of pent up jealousy, hatred, and fear come bubbling up to the surface with the real red cunts and I for one, can not and will not forget the things I’ve had said to me this week.

Superbia in Proelio
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The Rags only kept their rancid creases quiet because they were utter bilge. Now they look like challengers again, they've reverted to type.

Mates of mine who've said fuck all about football to me over the last few years, suddenly reappeared after the derby & they've not fucked off since! :-/

I'm STILL waiting for one of them to explain to me what these PL accusations are in relation to, & 3 days later all I can get is "You're cheats", but not one can explain why. \0/

They make me fuckin sick!
 
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