PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

the blue panther said:
What? Industrial (scale) accounting fraud? The implication you appear to have been persuaded of is that we should be heavily punished for that, and can't downplay it. Industrial scale accounting fraud which went unseen for over 9 or maybe even 13 years.

You put your diatribe on in response to a very positive post and, without specifically saying so, the clear implication from you is that relegation is appropriate for City in those circumstances. And prosecutions. Hanging and flogging as well? This isn't even a criminal trial.

I'd have expected such comments from a rag or a dipper, and of course, those clubs have never been guilty of anything, have they!?

As a blue - I assume, as you have 4000+ posts on here - I'm surprised you jumped in as you did, instead of holding your tongue until someone finds us guilty of anything. Why fan the flames? Were you writing similarly when UEFA were dragging us over the coals? I can't be arsed checking through your posts, but it looks like you've made up your mind based on Sky and the newspapers who've convicted us already.

Have a drink, or a lie down - chill, ffs!
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I'm not arguing whether we're guilty or not; just the hypothetical that if we are then we should be okay with that.

If our hierarchy have done this then I'm furious with them. I don't understand why we shouldn't collectively be upset if our owners have committed accounting fraud, we defend our owners and trust they do right by us and the club so if that's ever broken, then we should be asking serious questions of them.

Likewise, if these charges are frivolous and brought about by external forces/political lobbying, then I'm furious with the PL.

The scope of the accusation is huge and shouldn't be underplayed.
 
Ric said:
I’d be very surprised if there wasn’t some diplomatic pressure being applied from the UAE, tbh. This has gone a bit beyond just City now, with the likes of Khaldoon and Mansour himself, having their integrity so publicly questioned. It seems unthinkable that the recent investment plans won’t be used as leverage imo.
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Just to play devils advocate, if it wasn’t us and if that is actually happening, it’s a pretty good argument for why anyone with close ties to a state shouldn’t be owning football clubs tbh!

I agree it’s probably happening though.
 
A grey anonymous gentleman in a suit will turn up at the Prem offices, and over a cup of Earl Grey will tell the Prem bosses how this will be resolved all nice and quitely, he will then leave and nobody will ever know who he was or who he represented, or indeed that he was ever there in the first place .
 
nmc said:
If our books were being cooked. Silverlake would have uncovered it in their due diligence- I’d have more faith in them than the PL. I really can’t see how someone like Silverlake would invest in a tinpot outfit who file dodgy accounts for 9 years…. And on top of that fail to enter a team in the FA Cup!
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Silverlake's due diligence will have covered the legal requirements for accounting accuracy rather than compliance with the rules of the Premier League.
 
Fuzzy80 said:
I wouldn’t read too much into the clubs statement, we would completely take that.

If ever you have been unlucky enough to be involved in litigation, you will know ever message is delivered with total confidence, outrage at the other party.

It is a message you want to protray.

FWIW no offence to the poster who posted and I hope they are right, but it sounds like BS.

The PL is not planning on dropping these charges it will go to their independent commission.
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“Their independent commission” an oxymoron grammatically yet in this case absolutely accurate!
 
blueduff said:
Agree with the thinking there but then I'm not sure through which channel that would be pressured?
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maybe a figure representing the Government will offer to help the principals at both organisations come to some mutual recognition and possible accommodation. Strictly in secrecy of course. Perhaps City could provide its irrefutable proof of innocence and undertake full future cooperation. Given its keen interest in Regulatory oversight (helped by todays ESL announcements) I’d imagine the Government would have significant leverage and may wish to explore various potential models with the Premier League executives for example. It’s not too difficult to envisage how this may be approached.
 
marco said:
private members club in the sense they invent their own punishment bar for breaking the rules,exactly the same as PL dishing out what they see fit
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Mike Ashley took the pl to court over the then failed Newcastle takeover did he not? Even if City could not take the pl to court you can bet our owner can, if they attempt to destroy his business.
 
lonestay said:
A grey anonymous gentleman in a suit will turn up at the Prem offices, and over a cup of Earl Grey will tell the Prem bosses how this will be resolved all nice and quitely, he will then leave and nobody will ever know who he was or who he represented, or indeed that he was ever there in the first place .
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Do you write novels
 
The Stockport Iniesta said:
Mike Ashley took the pl to court over the then failed Newcastle takeover did he not? Even if City could not take the pl to court you can bet our owner can, if they attempt to destroy his business.
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And probably more importantly his reputation. The first raft of charges are as serious as it gets. The PL are saying our owner is culpable for 9 years of cheating.
 
Skip Donoghue said:
Who has the files from the CAS case?

Was the time barred evidence City has presented at CAS?

The question for me is why would it be presented, when it wasn't required?
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That evidence won’t have been presented. It’ll have been prepared but remain in the briefcase. Sounds like City we’re confident but as the charges were struck out - we took the win and kept our powder dry.
 
JewelZee said:
Mistakes? In order for City to have done what the Prem has charged they are basically a corrupt organization from top to bottom willfully running a quasi-criminal enterprise for the better part of FIFTEEN years while conspiring with or defrauding an entire sub industry including investors (Spring Lake), auditors, players, managers, agents, officials, supporters and whoever else. Not buying it. This is a matter of intentional extreme overkill by the Prem in the hopes that something or other might stick while at the same time attempting to hinder our ability to succeed on the pitch and in the transfer market. I'm past opinions. This is the reality for anyone with the slightest bit of savvy of how the wheels go round and round. Are you sitting there and watching...
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great summary
 
John Wayne said:
How though? Is it realistic to expect 115 charges to just be dropped one day?
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About a hundred of them, yes. There are actually only about half a dozen or so charges, just every occurrence presented separately. I think this is deliberate to imply that if there are so many then some must be true. Let's face it, saying we did something between 2009 & 2018 is nowhere near as sexy a story as listing every suspected occurrence so it looks like Harold shipman's kill list.
 
LucahArchie10 said:
Question for the in house lawyers or people who are right on this shit!!

Not if but when we come out of all this shit with another win will CFG go Absalutely balls deep & take every slimy cnut who has caused our club nothing but shit since 2008, please tell me we will??
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We can only pray that they do, wankers deserve everything we can throw at them. (Not a legal opinion by the way :-) )
 
lonestay said:
A grey anonymous gentleman in a suit will turn up at the Prem offices, and over a cup of Earl Grey will tell the Prem bosses how this will be resolved all nice and quitely, he will then leave and nobody will ever know who he was or who he represented, or indeed that he was ever there in the first place .
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Intrigued to discover whether the bosses were a) still able to walk / talk, and b) how big were the brown envelopes?
 
Bellamy's Caddy said:
When Carragher is giving Richards a tough time on this, Richards needs to turn it round on Carragher and ask him how ashamed he was of Liverpool for what they did with City's scouting database. That happened and is proven. The media brushed it under the carpet, but we don't have to. I like Micah but I doubt he'd rock the boat by doing it, which is a shame as his colleagues are shameless.
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micah doesn’t have the intelligence to respond in that way, he’ll just laugh & say something daft, it’s a shame we could do with some switched on former players on Sly sports who could counter the rubbish spitty spouts, bring back Buzzer
 
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