No one is suggesting that our accounts are fraudulent or our auditors have done anything wrong. Audits are not there to prevent fraud. Our auditors are not expected to go to the Middle East to try the impossible task of verifying the original source of funds coming into the club. In fact, if we were accused of some criminal charge I would be more comfortable. The standard of evidence required would no doubt ensure that most of the PL accusations would be immediately thrown out.
Without wishing to downplay what are obviously very serious accusations against our club, I look upon this case more like the situation where you join your local golf club and you agree to abide by the regulations but do not. The committee may throw you out. This case is dealt with on a far more formal basis than would happen at your local golf club but nevertheless it is a civil and not criminal case and the rules may enable "evidence" to be brought forward that would not otherwise be allowed and which may be judged upon by looking at the balance of probabilities.
That will be when we threaten Jordan with legal action if our legal advisors say it is worthwhile.As you say we will be cleared of the main charges but some of the minor shit will stick which will allow Jordan et Al to claim we we found guilty.
We might not be directly being accused of false account but I think that’s essentially what it amounts to. We are accused of more than just not following we are accused of faking revenue and hiding / reducing costsNo one is suggesting that our accounts are fraudulent or our auditors have done anything wrong. Audits are not there to prevent fraud. Our auditors are not expected to go to the Middle East to try the impossible task of verifying the original source of funds coming into the club. In fact, if we were accused of some criminal charge I would be more comfortable. The standard of evidence required would no doubt ensure that most of the PL accusations would be immediately thrown out.
Without wishing to downplay what are obviously very serious accusations against our club, I look upon this case more like the situation where you join your local golf club and you agree to abide by the regulations but do not. The committee may throw you out. This case is dealt with on a far more formal basis than would happen at your local golf club but nevertheless it is a civil and not criminal case and the rules may enable "evidence" to be brought forward that would not otherwise be allowed and which may be judged upon by looking at the balance of probabilities.
Fifa also now worried about an independent regulator in England.
I bet they fucking are!!
They are saying that we have not complied with the rules of the their club (The Premier League Club). The audited accounts will be subject to much adjustment before we give figures to the PL. Expenses are added or deducted to comply with their rules. We have already been penalised years ago for non-compliance without suggestion that our accounts were fraudulent. I don't think the PL have said this and I hope they would be a bit more careful. There may well be journalists/commentators who would say that but they know nothing. I was senior partner in a substantial accountancy practice for 40 years and don't think the auditors will be very worried about their work.I'm led to believe, if I've picked up @projectriver, @Prestwich_Blue and others correctly, that saying our accounts are effectively fraudulent is exactly what they're saying by charging us. And by consequence, the auditors are either (a) complicit in the fraud or (b) they too have been completely deceived by the club.
They are saying that we have not complied with the rules of the their club (The Premier League Club). The audited accounts will be subject to much adjustment before we give figures to the PL. Expenses are added or deducted to comply with their rules. We have already been penalised years ago for non-compliance without suggestion that our accounts were fraudulent. I don't think the PL have said this and I hope they would be a bit more careful. There may well be journalists/commentators who would say that but they know nothing. I was senior partner in a substantial accountancy practice for 40 years and don't think the auditors will be very worried about their work.
Could city’s lawyers not start the ball rolling now on suing the cunts now for defamation of character by PL announcing false charges publicly?
If city said we have evidence of PL being corrupt and want an independent investigation into it. And announced this publicly. Would we be allowed to get away with that?
What’s the difference?
Should have asked him if we're guilty when does the 2 year European ban kick inHad a convo on sat night with a rag. Said we cheated which is why we got fined £10m by CAS.
Asked how we cheated then? He said making sponsorship deals up
Told him the real reason we got find by CAS and his reply … “bollocks”
Cant win
That's the problem we don't. He regularly claims we have been found guilty of ffp breaches without mentioning we were cleared on appeal and the club does nothingThat will be when we threaten Jordan with legal action if our legal advisors say it is worthwhile.
I only asked you for a pound, and now you’re taking the piss out of my wardrobe!You've met him then?
I've seen better dressed beggars outside Greggs.
I only asked you for a pound, and now you’re taking the piss out of my wardrobe!
Maybe the club thinks he is too small fry to worry about. Not sure. However, when we defeat the majority of the main PL charges, I would be surprised if the club would not seek to pursue high profile and opinionated people that make false statements about the club. On a separate, but related note, I have already seen a false report about Haaland being withdrawn along with an apology from a particular newspaper which name escapes me right now. I think City will seek to punish people who intend to damage the club with false statements where they believe that damages our ability to succeed fairly on the pitch. However, until they have defeated the PL I think we will have to put up with the imbecilic reporting from Jordan et al. City have bigger fish to fry. Jordan in the long run is like a fart in the night. No-one will care about him in the morning.That's the problem we don't. He regularly claims we have been found guilty of ffp breaches without mentioning we were cleared on appeal and the club does nothing
Think that was the Express.Maybe the club thinks he is too small fry to worry about. Not sure. However, when we defeat the majority of the main PL charges, I would be surprised if the club would not seek to pursue high profile and opinionated people that make false statements about the club. On a separate, but related note, I have already seen a false report about Haaland being withdrawn along with an apology from a particular newspaper which name escapes me right now. I think City will seek to punish people who intend to damage the club with false statements where they believe that damages our ability to succeed fairly on the pitch. However, until they have defeated the PL I think we will have to put up with the imbecilic reporting from Jordan et al. City have bigger fish to fry. Jordan in the long run is like a fart in the night. No-one will care about him in the morning.
What the fuck are we all supposed to do for the next four years then?Might as well lock this thread for 4 years or until the initial findings are released.
Have a wank?What the fuck are we all supposed to do for the next four years then?
I'm not as young as I used to be but it still doesn't take me 4 years to have a wank.Have a wank?
It will go on as long as it's needed to destroy our clubs reputation.Realistically, whats a possible resolution time for this? This seems like it will basically go silent for a few years now?
I can see this all fizzling out tbh.