North Stand Construction Discussion

[Stockton Heath Blue]

Hyde Road, Gorton. The arse end of nowhere. Nothing there at all. Diamond Lodge has been opened for years and is still in business.

(needs updating, as well as a few porkies removing)

If you're looking for a hotel in Manchester...
...Diamond Lodge Hotel, Manchester offers quality premier lodge type hotel accommodation in Manchester at a budget price for business or leisure travellers. We are conveniently located 2 miles east of the city of Manchester, on the A57. With direct links to the city centre by bus and train from outside the hotel, within close proximity to the AO Arena, Old Trafford, Manchester United Football Club and Manchester City Etihad stadium and we are only 10 miles away from Manchester Airport.

Did this used to be a Travelodge c.10/15 years ago?

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Hyde Road, Gorton. The arse end of nowhere. Nothing there at all. Diamond Lodge has been opened for years and is still in business.

(needs updating, as well as a few porkies removing)

If you're looking for a hotel in Manchester...
...Diamond Lodge Hotel, Manchester offers quality premier lodge type hotel accommodation in Manchester at a budget price for business or leisure travellers. We are conveniently located 2 miles east of the city of Manchester, on the A57. With direct links to the city centre by bus and train from outside the hotel, within close proximity to the AO Arena, Old Trafford, Manchester United Football Club and Manchester City Etihad stadium and we are only 10 miles away from Manchester Airport.

How many regional branch managers have had the saddest affair with Julie from accounts in this place do you think?

 

[jrb]

Did this used to be a Travelodge c.10/15 years ago?

Yes it was.

 

[Prophet of Doom]

The Arena will have been open for 2 or 3 years and will be well established as the UKs best music music arena before the hotel opens its doors.

Has the complainer had a look how many apartments will be a short walk from the stadium / arena ?

With 34 bars and a host of facilities I’ve no doubt parts of the Arena will be a 7 day a week venue no matter whether there is a show on or not.

The idea that it’s gonna be ghost town when there is no show or football on is ridiculous.

With the next couple of years the site will be considered an simple extension of the city centre and any moaning will have long disappeared.

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

Yes it was.

Amazed it's still trading. We've funded quite a few Travelodge investments, but we struggled with this one back in the day as it was always on Travelodge's disposal list.

 

[remember arthur mann]

You're talking nonsense mate, thank god you weren't on the mcfc planning

I think it's Martin.

 

[blueparrot]

I understand all that, but imagine there is no match on, and no gigs taking place, and everything is locked up for the night. You've pretty much got McDonalds or Asda.

How does a hotel like that compete with the 50 or so hotels in Manchester City center, where you can step off the train and walk to your hotel. You can and have a meal in a restaurant, go to a bar with work colleagues? Or go clubbing or shopping.

Put it this way, if someone I knew wanted to book a hotel in Manchester for a weekend. I wouldn't send them out there, Iooking out over an empty car park, having to get a taxi to go out. And not everybody is a football fan.

I have stayed at Milton Keynes dons hotel and Bolton Wanderers with work, and they were like a ghost town after 6pm. If getting a taxi is your ultimate solution to this, then why not just book one of the plethora of hotels that are actually where you want to be in the first place?

Although, if a hotel was built that didn't block the view of the stadium, it wouldn't bother me. Let it sit there empty most of the time, but rammed for matches and gigs.

Its 2 stops from Piccadilly or a 20 minute walk along hopefully landscaped paths, with more parking than you can shake a stick at on non event days. It will have all the facilities you could want and will be a popular hotel for those things alone.

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

Anyone know where the legacy fans are going to sit?

In the pub or sat at home on bluemoon forum

 

[Cheadle_hulmeBlue]

One gig a week ? 3 to start then possibly 5/6 nights a week, it's a multi use venue, gigs, boxing, UFC etc etc going forward I would expect more than ONE hotel...

I can’t see there being gigs/events on 5-6 nights a week. If it was a smaller venue like Manchester academy I’d agree with you. Some of the larger venues do a few large gigs a month. A lot of it is based on who the act is, what the event is and number of tickets sold as well.

I could be wrong and maybe there will be daily events/gigs. I’m just thinking about some of the other large venues. You’d probably have to take into account the local community as well, which probably wouldn’t be very happy with lots of large scale events

 

[mancityvstoke]

Did this used to be a Travelodge c.10/15 years ago?

Further back The lake Hotel ;)

53 Bus stop ambushes

 

[brightwelleyes]

Happy enough with the designs, but you don't build a new housing estate without building a few new schools as well

Not dunking on you here but I think this pretty well illustrates the stadium transport problem: We've built huge numbers of new housing estates with no new schools on in the last 20-odd years, because successive governments have had no interest whatsoever in meaningful infrastructure.

 

[tolmie's hairdoo]

Upper Lloyd Street then Mancunian way. Back in 30.

Upper Lloyd Street/Mancunian Way roundabout has been shut for 18 months.

 

[pride in battle]

The Arena will have been open for 2 or 3 years and will be well established as the UKs best music music arena before the hotel opens its doors.

Has the complainer had a look how many apartments will be a short walk from the stadium / arena ?

With 34 bars and a host of facilities I’ve no doubt parts of the Arena will be a 7 day a week venue no matter whether there is a show on or not.

The idea that it’s gonna be ghost town when there is no show or football on is ridiculous.

With the next couple of years the site will be considered an simple extension of the city centre and any moaning will have long disappeared.

Parts of the Arena will be open 7 days a week

 

[pride in battle]

I can’t see there being gigs/events on 5-6 nights a week. If it was a smaller venue like Manchester academy I’d agree with you. Some of the larger venues do a few large gigs a month. A lot of it is based on who the act is, what the event is and number of tickets sold as well.

I could be wrong and maybe there will be daily events/gigs. I’m just thinking about some of the other large venues. You’d probably have to take into account the local community as well, which probably wouldn’t be very happy with lots of large scale events

The arena will host much smaller events, the initial 3 nights a week is for the first year.

 

[Stockton Heath Blue]

Its 2 stops from Piccadilly or a 20 minute walk along hopefully landscaped paths, with more parking than you can shake a stick at on non event days. It will have all the facilities you could want and will be a popular hotel for those things alone.

Yes, but is it inside the proposed resident's parking scheme ;-)

 

[Jacko1956]

84000
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Transport to/from Maine Rd was always superior from beginning to end.

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There are loads of potential names:

The Great Northern End (a bit more imaginative than just ‘the North Stand’… we’d be the ‘Northerners’ who stand in there, could have a massive banner saying ‘GREAT NORTHERN’)
The Pit (in relation to the colliery that was once on site)
The Wonderwall
The 93:20 Stand (since it was the end that 93:20 goal was scored at)
The Co-Op Stand (sponsor the stand and get more money coming in)

At one time I was adamant a proper City home end should be called the Kippax, but there’s only one Kippax and I think that should be left in our history and the new end should have a new name.

The Great Manc wall would do it for me ! With a small lettering 230 miles from London underneath !

 

[awest]

Upper Lloyd Street/Mancunian Way roundabout has been shut for 18 months.

It was open in 98

 

[supercity88]

Good post Supercity88.

I agree, good CGI’s are worth there weight in gold.

As this is an initial teaser with basic drawings and not very clear CGI’s, it’s better to wait. Everything will be much clearer at the exhibition space. There will be better CGI’s, maybe a model, maybe a flythrough video, and people to talk to involved in the proposal. The first exhibition space is at the ground on Saturday.

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I'm sure they'll have done a fly through and that will have the majority of people frothing.

I've caught up on subsequent posts and I completely get the desire for there to be an iconic football ground as the dominant visual. But I'll say again, that will be the case from the majority of viewing angles. It simply has to work as a standalone design as well, and I think they've done that. On matchdays from the tram stop you'd get thousands of blues drinking and singing and this monstrous stand in front of you which felt like a "home" from the outside and then was a proper home end on the inside.

Looking forward to seeing what further information is provided, and although very greedy - whether they've looked at the east and colin bell stands like they did with the SS expansion, and if there's anything more on that as a concept in the future.

 

[supercity88]

One thing I didn't notice on first viewing - it seems the 2nd tier will remain as it currently is. Look how the second tier bends around the corner on this picture.

It looks like Upper tier is essentially being stuck on top of the existing 2nd tier.

That seems to be the way to do it these days - it's what they've done at Anfield. Enables you to avoid disruption to existing operations and then just tie things together in the closed season.

 

[remember arthur mann]

Parts of the Arena will be open 7 days a week

I think Failsworth Brass Band have booked it for Tuesday nights.