VAR thread 2022/23

[Gray]

Howard Webb has improved nothing, jobs for the boys in the secret society that is PGMOL.

 

[TinFoilHat]

What the actual fuck is this nonsense from Walton here???

Did he admit VAR is not being used as it should?

 

[TFC]

Surely it's been proven time and again this season that VAR isn't currently for for purpose? Huge overhaul needed.

 

[kaz7]

What gets me is they are constantly changing the rules without telling anyone , we have been done over several times since this crap started then everyone else gets let off the same things , then it changes again , keep it the same all season and let everyone be treated the same , then review it in the summer breaks , this mid season changes makes the whole thing unfair

 

[Robanompivenov]

I’m not a conspiracy theorist generally, but that refereeing performance from Stuart Atwell was arguably the most bent I’ve seen since Mike Riley for United against Arsenal in 2004.

Always at the scene of the most ridiculous decisions.

 

[super_city_si]

Surely it's been proven time and again this season that VAR isn't currently for for purpose? Huge overhaul needed.

Its not VAR as a technology, its the imbeciles operating it that are the problem

 

[super_city_si]

Always at the scene of the most ridiculous decisions.

This. He's either completely inept or completely corrupt. Either way he should be fired as a referee

 

[paulchapo]

I’m not a conspiracy theorist generally, but that refereeing performance from Stuart Atwell was arguably the most bent I’ve seen since Mike Riley for United against Arsenal in 2004.

He's not fit for purpose and/or is bent. He should be booted so far into touch he's never seen again. Same with Oliver.

 

[TFC]

Its not VAR as a technology, its the imbeciles operating it that are the problem

Huge imbecile overhaul needed then.

 

[Kippax77]

This. He's either completely inept or completely corrupt. Either way he should be fired as a referee

The worse thing about this cnut is that he's probably being told from up above that he's safe doing it because nobody will be able to prove anything.
The Crass decision he made in the Derby didn't seem to effect him as he's carried on with making "bad" decisions almost on a weekly basis (apart from the rags of course) which tells me he must be working under instructions on certain fixtures.
Any other human who makes such high profile "mistakes" would want to try and rectify them.
Not him, he's ready for the next set of seedy events to occur in one of his games.

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

The worse thing about this cnut is that he's probably being told from up above that he's safe doing it because nobody will be able to prove anything.
The Crass decision he made in the Derby didn't seem to effect him as he's carried on with making "bad" decisions almost on a weekly basis (apart from the rags of course) which tells me he must be working under instructions on certain fixtures.
Any other human who makes such high profile "mistakes" would want to try and rectify them.
Not him, he's ready for the next set of seedy events to occur in one of his games.

If corruption is the answer, then no doubt he'll be being paid handsomely.

 

[VOOMER]

I’m not a conspiracy theorist generally, but that refereeing performance from Stuart TwAtwell was arguably the most bent I’ve seen since Mike Riley for United against Arsenal in 2004.

Spelling correction.

 

[VOOMER]

The one thing we can not let happen is to get rid of VAR. without it ‘cheating/manipulation’ would be so much easier to do.
We need transparency - cameras and mics in the Ops rooms of Stockley Park - and let the fans see how decisions are made. And make it LIVE , maybe an option on the red button.
What are these fuckers so afraid of what we might witness? A rhetorical question - I think we know what the answer is

100% correct they are bent.

 

[Inter Me Nan]

Attwell has been shite for a long time it's not a recent thing, anybody remember the phantom goal incident?

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Attwell has been shite for a long time it's not a recent thing, anybody remember the phantom goal incident?

Surely as far as Attwell is concerned, the question should be, at what point does incompetence cease to be the issue when corruption is the most likely cause?

 

[KentBlue]

It can't be incompetence, it's happening way way too often for that. Anybody THAT bad at their job would have been sacked ages ago. For this reason alone it has to be something else.
Twatwell will be back reffing soon and the whole thing will have been forgotten about, remember Clattenburg suddenly disappearing over the horizon without a word of explanation? Out of sight out of mind.

As much as we don't like to admit that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way games are being officiated in this country, we have to seriously consider that there is only one explanation, and that is corruption at the heart of our sport.


For an official to be able to make a match-changing decision without a word of justification to anybody is not just sinister, it's downright horrifying. Staying in the Premier League is worth millions and millions to a club, and one man alone has the power to ultimately decide whether a club stays up or goes down?

And this is the 21st century, FFS!

 

[Trevor Morley's Tache]

It can't be incompetence, it's happening way way too often for that. Anybody THAT bad at their job would have been sacked ages ago. For this reason alone it has to be something else.
Twatwell will be back reffing soon and the whole thing will have been forgotten about, remember Clattenburg suddenly disappearing over the horizon without a word of explanation? Out of sight out of mind.

As much as we don't like to admit that there is something fundamentally wrong with the way games are being officiated in this country, we have to seriously consider that there is only one explanation, and that is corruption at the heart of our sport.


For an official to be able to make a match-changing decision without a word of justification to anybody is not just sinister, it's downright horrifying. Staying in the Premier League is worth millions and millions to a club, and one man alone has the power to ultimately decide whether a club stays up or goes down?

And this is the 21st century, FFS!

Just look how much CL qualification is worth to Brighton (@ £13.7M).

 

[Brightwell Bros.]

Surely it's been proven time and again this season that VAR isn't currently for for purpose? Huge overhaul needed.

That's my main feeling about it all. As far as I am concerned, all the Brighton outcomes make complete sense in the rules of VAR, it's just that VAR is nonsense. People want, and thought they were going to get, overturning of poor on-field decisions even if the ref had sort of vaguely seen it. We have created a system where refs are making dodgy decisions based on the hope VAR will overturn it if they're wrong, and VAR not intervening as they don't want to impact the on-field decision. Absolute shite.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

if you're a ref, knowing that your decision could cause your family to get death threats, your face plastered all over the newspapers... You would leave it to the VAR team to make the calls.

The most skilled official is out there on the pitch, if you're in the VAR room you are going to leave those decisions to the ref.

it's a clusterfuck of backsliding responsibilities.

 

[manimanc]

Feel sorry for whoever Brighton play next, they might as well declare now.
Guranteed 3pts for the seagiulls.