Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

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Vialli98 said:
I don't know why people think Chelsea will be trying to get premium fees for our deadwood/players we should sell.

These are the estimates I think we could reasonably expect to get;

Ziyech - £10m or less.
Pulisic - £20-30m.
Loftus-Cheek - £15m or less.
Gallagher - £30-40m.
Lukaku - no idea what his market value is now. I doubt we can get more than £30m for him.
Auba - free.
Kovacic - £25-35m
Chalobah (I wouldn't sell him but it wouldn't surprise me) - £20m

People say peanuts as if all of these players will be let for £5m each. I doubt we'll be able to shift all of those players in one summer, some will probably go on loan or hang around for another season but regardless the squad will be trimmed. It's at 33 players, so ideally we should be getting rid of at least 8 players.
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That’s a big loss on original transfer fees but you get wages off the books I suppose, and I think that’s what Chelsea need to do now in the summer.
 
Vialli98 said:
I think he's done it twice this season - after Dortmund and again after Brighton. Abramovich used to do this when things got really bad too.
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I'm not sure. I don't think he's gonna be able to work with any strong willed manager hence the lampard appointment. What he needs is a yes man
 
Just saw this on football.london.
Just in case VIni was thinking about growing those locks out :)

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balotellishaircut said:
That’s a big loss on original transfer fees but you get wages off the books I suppose, and I think that’s what Chelsea need to do now in the summer.
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Yes but keep in mind some of these have been here for years. Hard to recoup the original fee on those that have been nothing but disappointments (Ziyech, Pulisic, Lukaku). As long as we trim the squad for the new manager and get their wages off the books, I’m not particularly fussed about the fees we get.
 
Mancini’s Pastilles said:
I'm not sure. I don't think he's gonna be able to work with any strong willed manager hence the lampard appointment. What he needs is a yes man
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Abramovich did it with almost every manager that let the situation get out of control. He usually stayed away if we stayed in and around the top 4 (or top 2 back when we we had really high standards). I don’t think the owners intend to visit the dressing room regularly. But this is a disastrous season that keeps getting worse with each passing week.
 
Vialli98 said:
Yes but keep in mind some of these have been here for years. Hard to recoup the original fee on those that have been nothing but disappointments (Ziyech, Pulisic, Lukaku). As long as we trim the squad for the new manager and get their wages off the books, I’m not particularly fussed about the fees we get.
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You’ll get £50m for Lukaku and probably £40m+ for Ziyech, he’s a good player no way you only get £10m for him, don’t know about the others and yes wages off the books and trimming the squad down is key.
 
balotellishaircut said:
You’ll get £50m for Lukaku and probably £40m+ for Ziyech, he’s a good player no way you only get £10m for him, don’t know about the others and yes wages off the books and trimming the squad down is key.
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Lukaku’s value feels like it’s on the floor and his wages are super high, like the highest at Chelsea. Ziyech only has 1 year left on his deal so he’ll won’t be sold for more than a token fee I think. It’s Gallagher and Kovacic I think we can aim to get some decently sized fees, maybe even Chalobah and Loftus-Cheek as I know they’re well regarded around the league.
 
Wonder who the player Boehly singled out in the dressing room was. Got to be Sterling surely?

£350K a week, and done absolute shit all in a chelsea shirt. Could see he was on the decline in his last few seasons at city. Madness business that.
 
mancityscot said:
Wonder who the player Boehly singled out in the dressing room was. Got to be Sterling surely?

£350K a week, and done absolute shit all in a chelsea shirt. Could see he was on the decline in his last few seasons at city. Madness business that.
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He’ll be fumin’ if he sees this. He’s missing birthday parties for that £350k per week don’t you know.

As for it being ‘madness business’, there were plenty on here that had a major fanny wobble when we sold him, including the cat botherer in chief.
 
Vialli98 said:
Yes but keep in mind some of these have been here for years. Hard to recoup the original fee on those that have been nothing but disappointments (Ziyech, Pulisic, Lukaku). As long as we trim the squad for the new manager and get their wages off the books, I’m not particularly fussed about the fees we get.
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The squad needs to get down to about 20/22 to leave room for purchases in the designated 25. That’s a big ask. I suspect it could be years to get back on an even keel.
 
KS55 said:
The squad needs to get down to about 20/22 to leave room for purchases in the designated 25. That’s a big ask. I suspect it could be years to get back on an even keel.
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You're not wrong. There are some easy ones who will have 12 months left on their deals so they can be released or allowed to leave for a token fee - Auba, Azpi, Ziyech. Loftus-Cheek also has 12 months left on his deal. Then there are players I think would benefit from going on loan - David Fofana, Chukwumueka, Lewis Hall. Then we decline signing Zakaria and Felix permanently. That's 9 players already, if we manage that - down to 24 players.

This is all before we get to the more complicated ones that Chelsea will try and get a good fee for - Gallagher, Kovacic, Chalobah, Pulisic, Lukaku. Sell 2 of them and we're down to 22 players.

I'm under no illusions that this will be easy and it will probably take a couple of windows to sort out but this summer, beyond securing a new manager, has to be about trimming the squad and getting bodies out of the door. We already know Nkunku and Malo Gusto are coming in, so there's less incentive to focus on signing new players first.
 
balotellishaircut said:
You’ll get £50m for Lukaku and probably £40m+ for Ziyech, he’s a good player no way you only get £10m for him, don’t know about the others and yes wages off the books and trimming the squad down is key.
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Lukaku will be 30 in a couple of weeks, he's on a big wage and has been a disaster for inter this season after well documented issues at both the rags and Chelsea. £50m isn't going to happen.
 
aguero93:20 said:
Lukaku will be 30 in a couple of weeks, he's on a big wage and has been a disaster for inter this season after well documented issues at both the rags and Chelsea. £50m isn't going to happen.
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Fair enough, I thought he was having a decent season at Inter but it seems like I’m getting mixed up with this season and last season where he scored 20+ goals.
 
mancityscot said:
Wonder who the player Boehly singled out in the dressing room was. Got to be Sterling surely?

£350K a week, and done absolute shit all in a chelsea shirt. Could see he was on the decline in his last few seasons at city. Madness business that.
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More likely it’s Cucurella who I read is rated by Chelsea fans as their worst signing of the Boely era
 
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