Chelsea Thread - 2022/23 | Pochettino confirmed as new manager

[Mancini’s Pastilles]

I suspect he wasn't having any of Boehly's shit. Discussing formations? Going in the changing room? Fuck off!

That's why they'll struggle to hire a top manager, bohely needs a yes man. And he has one in Frank

 

[Dirty Harry]

Just one more point re owners, Mansour has been unbelievably good ... but he and we are reaping the rewards of the people he appointed.

It seems to me that the team we have at boardroom level are unique. It's like having Mozart, Beethoven and ... em Elvis working together in perfect harmony.

There's a template to follow but is there that level of talent available to fill it?

Must admit though, that guy who fronted the initial take over (sorry, forget his name, SM’s cousin or something) that did worry me, then along came Karl Doon, and everything was good.

Chelsea seem in a right fuckin mess.

 

[Crooked_rain]

Agree, but as you say,he didn't have any goalscorers on the pitch and I don't think Madrid had to do much. We know ourselves that if you pick a side and tactics in a champions league game for the first time it is likely to go wrong, I actually think Chelsea have the players to trouble Madrid but not with the way they set up last night.

I just don't think Lampard knows what he's doing, that was evident flirting with relegation and getting sacked at Everton.

That's why I find the temporary appointment of him a crazy one. The league is gone anyway, literally the only glimmer of hope was the champions league, the smart move would be being in someone that can organise a team. It didn't need to be a sexy name. Just someone that can at least structure a team and then work from there and see what you can do in the Champions League games ahead.

Instead they bring in a manager who seemingly has no clue about how he wants to set a team up or how he wants a team to be play to go up against Ancelotti in the only meaningful games you have left.

 

[M16 citeh]

It was always going to be that way, City create numerous amounts of chances during games hence why Sterling always got good numbers at City, Realistically he should of having a lot more goals with us because ge misses an awful lot of chances.

Different ball game at Chelsea, If he gets a chance he has to take it because chances are few and far between. And we all know Raheem isn't clinical on front of goal.

He made his bed. Fuck him.

Wouldn't go that far im still rooting for the lad! But agree with the tactical stuff what was he expecting!!

 

[blue cigar]

I just don't think Lampard knows what he's doing, that was evident flirting with relegation and getting sacked at Everton.

That's why I find the temporary appointment of him a crazy one. The league is gone anyway, literally the only glimmer of hope was the champions league, the smart move would be being in someone that can organise a team. It didn't need to be a sexy name. Just someone that can at least structure a team and then work from there and see what you can do in the Champions League games ahead.

Instead they bring in a manager who seemingly has no clue about how he wants to set a team up or how he wants a team to be play to go up against Ancelotti in the only meaningful games you have left.

They thought Frank was a win win, get a hero back that the fans will never turn on and I suspect they can't get their preferred target until next season, probably nagglesman...frank just gets worse and worse as a manager and tactician

 

[Akira]

He does speak, though, in a manner that completely fits the stereotype of the arrogant US businessman, and that is all on him.

For me at least, it's that 'US arrogance' that makes him unlikeable, at least he comes across that way. He came into English football seemingly acting like he has football 'all figured out', as though he has 'cracked the system'.

"I'm gonna fuck this helmet guy and that Russian broad off, who needs these roles in a club anyway? I just need to spend 600mil on superstars, that will win me things, it's that easy guys - money talks, football walks. After that, I'll just hand this star-studded squad over to a YOUNG and UPCOMING coach. Who even needs experience managing big players? Young is always better. Hah, this FFP nonsense can fuck off too, wait till they get a load of my lengthy contracts. ...Man, this European football should really take a look at how us Americans do things and do an annual, meaningless all-stars game, because why the hell not."

 

[14aguero]

For me at least, it's that 'US arrogance' that makes him unlikeable, at least he comes across that way. He came into English football seemingly acting like he has football 'all figured out', as though he has 'cracked the system'.

"I'm gonna fuck this helmet guy and that Russian broad off, who needs these roles in a club anyway? I just need to spend 600mil on superstars, that will win me things, it's that easy guys - money talks, football walks. After that, I'll just hand this star-studded squad over to a YOUNG and UPCOMING coach. Who even needs experience managing big players? Young is always better. Hah, this FFP nonsense can fuck off too, wait till they get a load of my lengthy contracts. ...Man, this European football should really take a look at how us Americans do things and do an annual, meaningless all-stars game, because why the hell not."

I was going to miss the Glazers, but Boehly came in as a replacement. As a bonus, the Glazers are still around. Fun times.

 

[bennyboy]

Strange team selection, loads of midfielders and barely any threat, I don't know what Frank was trying to do? It's like he has too many players to pick from and doesn't even have a system of play, he's changing it every game.
Madrid just had to sit in and wait for the inevitable chance to come their way, what a mess, this could take a few years to recover

Strange team selection that saw them miss a host of easy chances.
I thought they played well until Madrid scored their first.
Team selection not the problem.
For Kante to not even hit the target at his first chance was an incredible miss

 

[KS55]

It's actually hilarious that they expect raheem to be the main goal scorer

Given who else they could pick, Raz would be the top scorer with about 6 in the season.

 

[KS55]

I suspect he wasn't having any of Boehly's shit. Discussing formations? Going in the changing room? Fuck off!

Early Swales.

 

[aguero93:20]

They're screaming out for a striker yet they've sent a guaranteed 20-30 goal striker out on loan. OK Lukaku had a problem with Tuchel's system but other managers since would have played to his strengths.

The guaranteed 20-30 goal striker who's got *checks notes* 3 league goals this season in a weaker league playing in a team set up to his strengths.

 

[KS55]

They thought Frank was a win win, get a hero back that the fans will never turn on and I suspect they can't get their preferred target until next season, probably nagglesman...frank just gets worse and worse as a manager and tactician

No champions league, massive squad, unbalanced, interfering chairman. They won’t get Nagelsman if he has any sense.
They should try a young Brit like…..er…..Potter!

 

[halfcenturyup]

Early Swales.

Ouch. He has nicer hair, to be honest.

 

[blue cigar]

Strange team selection that saw them miss a host of easy chances.
I thought they played well until Madrid scored their first.
Team selection not the problem.
For Kante to not even hit the target at his first chance was an incredible miss

If my aunty had bollocks.....
He left goalscorers on the bench, the midfielders missed chances, I'd say he picked the wrong team. Anyway, out they go and we'll beat Madrid this time

 

[Vialli98]

Well that’s you, but a lot of us find that list to make him an odious owner and not suited for owning a part of our treasured game.

If our owners had done those things, a lot of us would be calling for their heads.

As it’s at a rival, yes, it is slightly amusing, but as a football fan in general I don’t want to see people like that involved.

Look at the Glazers, does anyone look at them with mild indifference? They’ve made some similar decisions on a less catastrophic and less drastic level, and are some of the most hated owners in the game - rightly so - by fans of all clubs.

Okay well let's look at the 4 things you mentioned.

1. Cech and Marina had already told the owners they would leave at the end of the first transfer window, but when it became clear that they both wanted to keep Lukaku around, among other points of disagreements it was decided to let them leave earlier than initially planned. This was them supporting Tuchel as it was he who was adamant that Lukaku had to be gone out of the club. I don't think the plan was ever to do it the way it ended up being but there was no real 'football structure' to speak of before. It was just Marina and Cech. Marina performed many different roles and wore many different hats on her own and Cech was basically just the go-to between manager and owner, so he and Tuchel ended up becoming very close friends. So when you say 'dismantled the structure' all you really mean is he let go of Marina Granovskaia.

2. For me there is a clear difference between the summer business and winter business. In the summer, yes it was him and Tuchel tag teaming alone to sign players and it was a disaster. Between the summer and the winter, the owners hired a bunch recruitment specialists and sporting directors and it has been those people who have led the charge on the spending spree in January and it is the sporting directors who are also now leading the search for a new manager. Yes too many players signed too quickly but for me a bigger problem has been the inability to let anybody go. Hopefully, the focus of the upcoming window will be just that, trimming the squad.

3. That 443 thing was nothing more than Tuchel propaganda. Who knows whether it's true or not. It was 'behind the curtains' piece in the aftermath of Tuchel's sacking that revealed that little tidbit. Who cares though? It's a total non-issue.

4. What laws has he talked about changing? Please don't tell you're talking about the silly north v south all-star game stuff?

 

[Vialli98]

I think there is a nervousness here, amongst City fans, if not more widely in football, that the real threat to football isn't the super-rich owners who are investing money into the game, but the ever increasing number of American owners who want almost guaranteed returns they can extract from their investment by imposing a US model on football rather than a European model. I think Boehly has got caught up in that, possibly unfairly as I don't think he has mentioned reform of that sort. He does speak, though, in a manner that completely fits the stereotype of the arrogant US businessman, and that is all on him. We will probably see him scheming with the other American owners when he finally realises this football ownership lark is really quite difficult.

Perhaps, I understand that I suppose but it still baffles me that he is called an arsehole and an arrogant twat based on that nervousness though.

 

[halfcenturyup]

Perhaps, I understand that I suppose but it still baffles me that he is called an arsehole and an arrogant twat based on that nervousness though.

:) Fair enough. But you can only make a first impression once. And my first impression of him was that he is an arrogant twat arsehole. It's a long way back!

 

[ZanteWeatherman]

I actually thought Chelsea were much the better team last night up until the Madrid goal then that killed the game.

Chelsea had numerous chances to score, The problem is that they have nobody to put the ball in the back of the net. All the money they've spent and didn't think of buying a striker is ridiculous.

Numerous players they've bought aren't good enough either. Now they've a problem when Lampard goes and get a new manager in he will want his own players in and possibly not rate the players Chelsea have bought under Potter.

Complete shit show.

I'm not convinced Beatrix had much say in the matter. A bit like Spurs with the Bale money "here's a load of players, sort it out".....

 

[Gazza]

The guaranteed 20-30 goal striker who's got *checks notes* 3 league goals this season in a weaker league playing in a team set up to his strengths.

Career total = 576 games, 273 goals - roughly one goal every two games.
The weaker Italian league that had 3 of the last 8 CL teams and probably 2 of the last 4, that league?

 

[ASHCFC]

:) Fair enough. But you can only make a first impression once. And my first impression of him was that he is an arrogant twat arsehole. It's a long way back!

To be fair, I don't think that making a good impression with the City fan base was at the top of his agenda!

As a Chelsea fan I did research Boehly and other potential buyers during the bidding process. My feeling was (and is) that he was the best choice, all things considered. He wants to win as a priority, and the financial backing demonstrated so far, albeit chaotically, supports that.

And as far as being arrogant, I just don't see that but it's subjective I guess.

I'd like to think that sensible Chelsea fans will realise that what happened to our club as a result of Putin is going to take quite a while to work through. And in the mean time fans of rival clubs can enjoy watching one of the strongest prem teams of the last twenty years go through the pain. I would :)