You could be right. It could just be a bar, like any other GA bar in the ground. But the wording on the PA states ‘hospitality’.(with GA added)
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You could be right. It could just be a bar, like any other GA bar in the ground. But the wording on the PA states ‘hospitality’.(with GA added)
There are 15 rows on the current second tier North stand,10 upto the staircase. The hospitality steps in the new design seem to be going to what would be lower section of the new section, not the front of the existing tier 2. There's a lower staircase from the concourse area that leads to the existing 10 front rows of level 2 (as it currently does). I think?
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This is a massive own goal from the club, as many posters have said give the North Stand to the core support, you only have to have seen the game yesterday to see what GA+ sections are doing to football. Look at what Club Wembley has done , sorry tried to get a photo of the section.
Another thing having this section in the North Stand will play to the empty seats jibe that we get all the time as these 648 people will having there Joe's burger when the second half kicks off
Another thing having this section in the North Stand will play to the empty seats jibe that we get all the time as these 648 people will having there Joe's burger when the second half kicks off
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Wembley is completely different especially for semi finals, those areas aren’t for the clubs involved. Not a comparison in any way to whats being suggested for the front of the NS.
Actually those having their Joes burger probably get back quicker than those in other blocks that are queuing for a beer or a pie.
I’ve sat in many blocks all over the ground and in all for the last 5 minutes before half time the first 5 of the second half and the last five minutes of the game I’m constantly up and down letting fans in and out of their seats.
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So the club has to put hospitality areas at the front of a home end?
No it doesn’t. There’s already loads of areas in the ground for that.
Pretty much the biggest part of the point I'm making. And that isn't even that much of devil's advocate 'what if' pedantry, I know of that very thing happening in the past. And in an ironic twist of fate, @jrb being the one picking up on it on one occasion!
Look it goes without saying that, if the team behind this include a hospitality bar in the proposals, with a direct link to seats that are marked as hospitality, then it is exactly what it says on the tin and they have every intention of using/selling the area as that. But by the same logic, if that also says /GA, in a full GA stand area, the seats are not shown any different from other seats in terms of spacing and size, then maybe there might be more to it there, i.e it can be used as GA, that just happens to have access to a bar. The other hospitality areas don't include that, they are purely down as hospitality. That's before you add the layer of consultation etc
I'm sure it will become clear through the dialogue that many are planning with the club. Hopefully people will be open minded that it might not be exactly whay everyone assumes. And if it is, then every right to feel as they now do.
Playing devils advocate.
Bar what’s in the planning application we don’t know what the club has decided or has yet to decided about L2. The word ‘option’ is evident in the PA, giving the club flexibility on decisions it may still have to make. So until the club explain and clarify decisions about L2 in the future, we don’t know what the club have decided. There’s no point in asking the club to go public on those decisions because they won’t. We all know by now how City works.(that includes City Matters)
Bar what’s in the planning application we don’t know what the club has decided or has yet to decided about L2. The word ‘option’ is evident in the PA, giving the club flexibility on decisions it may still have to make. So until the club explain and clarify decisions about L2 in the future, we don’t know what the club have decided. There’s no point in asking the club to go public on those decisions because they won’t. We all know by now how City works.(that includes City Matters)
The club is investing 300m on an incredible facility for the supporters, that all I am seeing.
Nobody is complaining about the £300mill investment. We’re all grateful for the continued investment Sheikh Mansour puts into the club and into East Manchester. Hence why we sing his name. :-)
The club also intimated to the fans that it wanted to build and create a proper and vocal home end. (with hospitality areas at the front and at the back of the stand ;-) )
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Have a look at what the planning statement says for the COOP LIVE has apps for food and also apps for how to get trams etc. I don't know why the club are not using the same in the ground, the planning statement for the COOP live looks well thought through compared to the planning statement for the new North Stand where it does not look like a mishmash of ideas, the Club have said they want home end so why o why have they added this GA+ section to the front of the L2 they could easily have it next to the sky bar section.
Going forward there needs to be a board set up of fans as City Matters does not work, I emailed one of them the other week still nothing.
There is no way of talking to anyone except on here.
To get the supporters connected better we need to work harder, look at yesterday no way of speaking to the 1894 groups as there is no way of talking to them via socials
Twitter - No way of sending a message
Facebook - No way of sending a message on Facebook
No website - no email address
Look at this
The 3252
the3252.net
If we all want the North Stand to work there needs to be joined-up thinking
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Because we don’t know what the club has decided those seats are yet, we dont even know yet if they will be seats or safe standing yet.Have a look at what the planning statement says for the COOP LIVE has apps for food and also apps for how to get trams etc. I don't know why the club are not using the same in the ground, the planning statement for the COOP live looks well thought through compared to the planning statement for the new North Stand where it does not look like a mishmash of ideas, the Club have said they want home end so why o why have they added this GA+ section to the front of the L2 they could easily have it next to the sky bar section.
Going forward there needs to be a board set up of fans as City Matters does not work, I emailed one of them the other week still nothing.
There is no way of talking to anyone except on here.
To get the supporters connected better we need to work harder, look at yesterday no way of speaking to the 1894 groups as there is no way of talking to them via socials
Twitter - No way of sending a message
Facebook - No way of sending a message on Facebook
No website - no email address
Look at this
The 3252
If we all want the North Stand to work there needs to be joined-up thinking
The plans are fluid so the club can decide now or in a years time exactly what-they will be.
For all we know they could be exactly the same as the rest of the standbut paying a few pounds more for access to their own bar. Many normal singing fans would pay a few quid more for that and to be at the front/middle.
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Let me put this on record.
I’ve met and spoken to Danny Wilson a few times. Going back quite a few years. There’s plenty to like about him. And I’ve got plenty of time for him.
I’m not singling Danny Wilson out as other directors will have been involved in the North stand expansion decision making. But the North stand expansion is pretty much his brief.
Part of the statement released by Danny Wilson on the OS states.
“I’d like to take this opportunity to thank our fans and the local community for their participation in our recent consultation, not only for completing the questionnaire but sharing their detailed comments and feedback with us, all of which has been carefully reviewed and considered.
www.mancity.com
Much of that detailed comment and feedback which was carefully reviewed and ‘considered’ would have included such things as.
A vocal and passionate home end that we don’t currently have.(unlike the majority of other PL clubs)
A last chance to create the above.
Safe standing on L2.
A singing section/block on L2.
Affordable season tickets and match day tickets on L2.
Being able to hang banners and flags at the front of L2, as well as doing displays.
And all the other things like better bars, better food choices, better service, and whatever else people added. (you know what I mean)
So all of those comments and feedback relating to creating a proper home end, (also submitted by many people on BM), would have been looked at and taken into consideration.
I doubt very much, even though I could be wrong, that there was a single person who asked for a hospitality area to be placed at the front of L2.
I’ve met and spoken to Danny Wilson a few times. Going back quite a few years. There’s plenty to like about him. And I’ve got plenty of time for him.
I’m not singling Danny Wilson out as other directors will have been involved in the North stand expansion decision making. But the North stand expansion is pretty much his brief.
Part of the statement released by Danny Wilson on the OS states.
“I’d like to take this opportunity to thank our fans and the local community for their participation in our recent consultation, not only for completing the questionnaire but sharing their detailed comments and feedback with us, all of which has been carefully reviewed and considered.
Manchester City submits planning application for entertainment destination at the Etihad Stadium
Manchester City is today announcing that it has submitted a planning application to Manchester City Council for the development of a best-in-class fan experience and year-round entertainment and leisure destination at the Etihad Stadium.
www.mancity.com
Much of that detailed comment and feedback which was carefully reviewed and ‘considered’ would have included such things as.
A vocal and passionate home end that we don’t currently have.(unlike the majority of other PL clubs)
A last chance to create the above.
Safe standing on L2.
A singing section/block on L2.
Affordable season tickets and match day tickets on L2.
Being able to hang banners and flags at the front of L2, as well as doing displays.
And all the other things like better bars, better food choices, better service, and whatever else people added. (you know what I mean)
So all of those comments and feedback relating to creating a proper home end, (also submitted by many people on BM), would have been looked at and taken into consideration.
I doubt very much, even though I could be wrong, that there was a single person who asked for a hospitality area to be placed at the front of L2.
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No one’s complaining about that though.
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Thanks.
I‘ve now got a wide angle camera lens as well.
I would ask the club to let me take some update pictures from inside the ground every now and again on non match days, but after all my complaining about the proposed hospitality section at the front of L2,they would probably tell me to f*ck off! :-)
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Here are some pictures of our own hospitality area in the South Stand at the Etihad:
Look at the packed vocal area below it, then see the empty seats in the hospitality section above the score/time below and under ‘Etihad Stadium’.
This area is rarely full at the start of games so would ruin pre-match displays, it’s always half empty from about 35-55 minutes and is always one of the first areas to empty at the end of games.
I’ve also posted some of my own pictures of it a few pages ago.
Here’s another one, it’s actually full at the start of a game for once, but with only a handful of people bothering holding up their display cards.
And this is the sort of thing they’re looking at putting at the front of what we thought was going to be a new special vocal stand. It’s simply not the right area for it and there are plenty of other areas they could put more hospitality.
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