blueparrot
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Nobody knows yet, maybe even the club don’t know for sure yet either for all we know.
North Stand Construction Discussion
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I honestly don’t have any issues or qualms about the hospitality area at the back of the stand and the restaurant and bar above it. I’ll probably do the restaurant, NSL3 seating, and the roof walk once, just to say I’ve done it and experienced it.
Yeah. ‘Option’ is stated.
This thread might help them come to the correct decision? ;-)
Ha! :-)
Even better, I’ve got a zoom lens that will be able to pick them out individually. 648 pictures of every padded seat. :-(
That is it mate. It is mostly a processing matter, to make sure they get approval for the numbers, uses and planning classes they need.
I.e the option to make it safe standing, or seating makes fuck all of a difference to planning. Show either and once you have approval, do what you want/need if you can agree it with the FA, as it doeant affect the approved use. The bar however is different, if you don't include it now, it is a separate application to include it later. May even be that calling it 'hospitality' makes it easier to justify to secure that class in the approval.
If the club ditched the hospitality bar and made the 648 seats at the front of L2 GA, 1894 could use that room as a storeroom for their flags, banners, telescopic poles, etc. In fact, keep the bar and create space for the flags, banners, telescopic poles etc as well. ;-)
I know you joke, but the reality is, there is nothing to stop them doing that once they get planning for it being a bar.
And it is quite possible that they think it is easier to get a bar approved in that location, if you define it as a specific hospitality offering with limited capacity serving only a select group of premium seats, than, if you just jam a general punters bar underneath a football stand.
And if you are looking at it as analytically as you have the other drawings (full credit for picking things up there btw), the actual layout within that area does not exactly scream 'hospitality' in the way a few here are imagining it (i.e this posh exclusive feet up haeven), but is just a fairly bog standard bar layout. Albeit with direct access to an area of the stand.
You could be correct. The proposed hospitality bar could be similar to another Ardwick, Joe’s, etc.
The Ardwick.
The Ardwick bar, for example, or a similar bar at the front of L2 will probably have a similar price point, which would exclude the general GA (demographics) fan from going in there.
I can afford some of those prices to a point, ie, West Ham, but I couldn’t justify paying that for a match, bar maybe a 1 off special occasions like a Birthday, etc.
During months of conversations about the stand on this thread nobody mentioned or discussed the possibility of a hospitality section at the front of L2.
It never even entered my mind, let alone thinking the club would come up with a hospitality section at the front of L2 after all the positive and well thought out feedback we‘ve given the club over the months via this thread, which Danny Wilson and the club have read.
A serious question.
What type of fan is going to pay £499 for a seat in the proposed hospitality area at the front of L2, if an Ardwick Bar (not a ‘Restaurant’) price point is implemented in there?
Is it going to be the type of (GA) fan who wants to stand up for 90 minutes, chant, clap, swear, which happens, does the Poznan, jumps on fellow City fans when City score, etc?
I’ll let you decide.
What type of fan is going to pay £499 for a seat in the proposed hospitality area at the front of L2, if an Ardwick Bar (not a ‘Restaurant’) price point is implemented in there?
Is it going to be the type of (GA) fan who wants to stand up for 90 minutes, chant, clap, swear, which happens, does the Poznan, jumps on fellow City fans when City score, etc?
I’ll let you decide.
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I’m trying to pull some possible positives from this bar and 648 seats at the front of the stand staying GA.
It would be better and possibly acceptable if it was a GA section with a reasonable and additional cost to access the bar that GA fans could afford and were willing to pay.
But when City can charge up £499 now for a similar seat, what will they charge in 3 years time, I doubt that will happen.
Going by the type of demographic that pay hundreds of pounds for gig tickets of average quality popular bands, actually quite likely.
I know if I were to be able to pay that (whether I would is another matter) or if I were to have it gifted to me, I would 100% want to do all those.
Your underlying point has remained valid throughout all this. And that is of location, rather than allocation.
Sorry mate, you’ve lost me.
Do you mean?
£499 is just for the last home game against Chelsea.