PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

[TFC]

Is there a decent explanation of the charges anywhere on here? From what I can gather, not a one has any bearing on us tearing the league a new arse since Pep showed up, yet apparently we've 'doped' our way to success ffs.

 

[cheekybids]

Presumably because the legal team have advised them to stay quiet and that the important thing at this stage is the legal process not the court of public opinion. The public opinion side can be fixed after the tribunal is over.

Agreed, every decision seems to have been made with top legal advice as you’d expect. I’d love to know how it gets fixed later though.

 

[rabby]

haha

Some of the replies on there,holy shit.
One comment was "city fighting back so hard proves they've got something to hide."
The thought of morons like that potentially sitting on a jury, scary stuff.

 

[Blue Llama]

Aren't you just doing the same now on social media. Who knows what the outcome could have been. It could have been a bigger vote for Brexit without social media. We all fall into the trap of half-truths and lies which makes us all stupid people including me and you.
I voted remain btw :) and I don't think we're squeaky clean.
We know Abu Dhabi isn't which is what people latch onto primarily.

That depends on your definition of squeaky clean. Can you expand on why you think Abu Dhabi isn't squeaky clean without using any activities that the UK hasn't tried before?

 

[cheekybids]

Fuck me. That's a word I never expected to see on a football forum.

"Argument"

Well done!

I spend a good proportion of my time on here finding I need a thesaurus, @gordondaviesmoustache threw “lugubrious” at me yesterday :)

 

[halfcenturyup]

I spend a good proportion of my time on here finding I need a thesaurus, @gordondaviesmoustache threw “lugubrious” at me yesterday :)

The bastard. I hope it missed. Yukkkkk!

 

[Coatigan]

Those claiming thw club are doing nothing about this to challenge public perception against the media portrayal of things, may be missing or forgetting Pep's role in all this. He creates bigger waves than the ripples of a media briefing or an online club statement.

 

[threadkiller]

Regardless of the number of charges, if you're found guilty of just 1 then you're guilty of that particular charge only. It could be that I've missed your point entirely though.

And what his mate and patron Lim has done to poor Valencia

I doubt we are whiter than white but anyone would think we have hidden the biggest fraud in history, The reality is that we have undertaken what are global business practices and introduced them into a football enviroment that has been dragging it's knuckles through the dirt for decades. We are likely to have done what any large businesses do, Look for ways to limit our liabilities and to reduces costs by centralising them.

Just as examples:
What about the dippers writing of £40 million on a non existant stadium?
What about the Rags reneging on a friendly that was part of a transfer.

Just consider for a moment, if you listen to many opposition fans they would have you believe we are saying players in secret on top of their reported salaries, then consider the number of players who have left the club some of which have been disgruntalled, you would have thought by now there would have been a whistle blower or something, players will be audited for tax purposes, are we saying all the auditors are in on this fraud as well?

What about sponsors, are we really to believe that the most successful and fasted growing team in England over the last 10 years won't have had large businesses wanting to be associated with them through sponsorship?

Revenue:
Has any club in England earned more prize money through the premier league and CL in the last 10 years than us?

Im on the side of the club, fuck them all.

And don't forget that we can can't possibly be as popular as Arsenal, because Arsenal had a 15 or so year period of (moderate) success 25 years ago. Despite our own, current, period of (reletive) success lasting 11 yrs and counting!

 

[Coatigan]

Agreed, every decision seems to have been made with top legal advice as you’d expect. I’d love to know how it gets fixed later though.

It simply gets forgotten, in time. We all move on.

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

Is one of the charges that we've been paying more in transfer fees than we've actually reported?
Was in an argument over the weekend when pointing out that we're 10th in the net spend table for the last years.

I argued that this wasn't one of the charges.
If for example we report the transfer fee for Nathan Ake of £40m, we pay Bournemouth that and they reflect that on their accounts.
If we actually pay them £60m but they report it as £40m, then they are guilty too for false accounting surely?

I'm no lawyer or forensic accountant sadly, unlike the majority of football fans on Twitter these days.

 

[Gorton_Tubster]

Is one of the charges that we've been paying more in transfer fees than we've actually reported?
Was in an argument over the weekend when pointing out that we're 10th in the net spend table for the last years.

I argued that this wasn't one of the charges.
If for example we report the transfer fee for Nathan Ake of £40m, we pay Bournemouth that and they reflect that on their accounts.
If we actually pay them £60m but they report it as £40m, then they are guilty too for false accounting surely?

I'm no lawyer or forensic accountant sadly, unlike the majority of football fans on Twitter these days.

And you tend to believe it? So we're now paying more than what has been stated? LOL What next.

 

[M18CTID]

Is one of the charges that we've been paying more in transfer fees than we've actually reported?
Was in an argument over the weekend when pointing out that we're 10th in the net spend table for the last years.

I argued that this wasn't one of the charges.
If for example we report the transfer fee for Nathan Ake of £40m, we pay Bournemouth that and they reflect that on their accounts.
If we actually pay them £60m but they report it as £40m, then they are guilty too for false accounting surely?

I'm no lawyer or forensic accountant sadly, unlike the majority of football fans on Twitter these days.

Any opposition fans claiming we're doing that needs putting in a padded cell. As you say, it would mean that the selling clubs are in on it too ffs!

 

[ballbag]

5 Live this morning.......if City do the treble, would United's be considered "Pure"

Just fuck off.

Course it would. They grew a squad from seeds in the greenhouse at the cliff back then. The millions they spent throughout the 90s, smashing transfer records when there was about 2 other rich clubs in the league, didn't have anything at all to do with it.

 

[flb]

Was it necessary for the PL to cite "115" charges ? Why couldn't they just say charges relating to? I know we all blame the red shirts and the other red shirt arse lickers for these charges they pushed for against us. The narrative yet again has been set further, the average gimp supporters of these hard done to clubs are of the opinion that we have committed 115 separate, under the counter, dodgy transfers and sponsorship deals-when the actual truth is completely different to the narrative set. Granted yes that technically their are 115 charges against us and this just seems that the PL have thrown us under the bus through sensationalism, against a club that invests in the local community with jobs and infrastructure? The PL have handled this disgracefully in my humble opinion.

 

[IrishBlueSince92]

And you tend to believe it? So we're now paying more than what has been stated? LOL What next.

No i didn't believe it

 

[cheekybids]

Was it necessary for the PL to cite "115" charges ? Why couldn't they just say charges relating to? I know we all blame the red shirts and the other red shirt arse lickers for these charges they pushed for against us. The narrative yet again has been set further, the average gimp supporters of these hard done to clubs are of the opinion that we have committed 115 separate, under the counter, dodgy transfers and sponsorship deals-when the actual truth is completely different to the narrative set. Granted yes that technically their are 115 charges against us and this just seems that the PL have thrown us under the bus through sensationalism, against a club that invests in the local community with jobs and infrastructure? The PL have handled this disgracefully in my humble opinion.

It seems a coordinated attack, it was rushed, factually incorrect & leaked.

I think handling it disgracefully is putting it mildly.

 

[Norbert D]

There was no referendum to join the EEC, Heath government lied to the public and parliament about the ultimate MO of the EU which was to become a federal state, Wilson held a referendum in 1973 and perpetuated the lie, there was no social media in those days. Its an utter insult to the intelligence of the people who voted in the recent referendum that those who voted to leave were stupid but, those who voted to remain were highly intelligent people. The remain campaign told nothing but the truth of course

And of course Brexit has been such a roaring success. Well for those like ReesMogg who hid his money in Dublin, or Redwood who said don’t buy British, or that twat trying to buy the rags or Dyson moving his HQ to Singapore etc

 

[flb]

It seems a coordinated attack, it was rushed, factually incorrect & leaked.

I think handling it disgracefully is putting it mildly.

Which sort of negates the theory that the PL never wanted it to go this far and "want it to go away".

 

[Gordyola]

Is one of the charges that we've been paying more in transfer fees than we've actually reported?
Was in an argument over the weekend when pointing out that we're 10th in the net spend table for the last years.

I argued that this wasn't one of the charges.
If for example we report the transfer fee for Nathan Ake of £40m, we pay Bournemouth that and they reflect that on their accounts.
If we actually pay them £60m but they report it as £40m, then they are guilty too for false accounting surely?

I'm no lawyer or forensic accountant sadly, unlike the majority of football fans on Twitter these days.

All transfer and contacts have to be ratified by the football authorities end of
What is reported in the media can be different depending upon the agenda

 

[Gordyola]

And of course Brexit has been such a roaring success. Well for those like ReesMogg who hid his money in Dublin, or Redwood who said don’t buy British, or that twat trying to buy the rags or Dyson moving his HQ to Singapore etc

Didn't argue about the success or not of the UK leaving the EU just, pointing out that your argument about influencing opinion is not entirely valid