Mateo Kovacic

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DeBlueLou said:
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Well it's a tough question to answer, because I would need to know if İlkay is coming back for two seasons (as reported) or leaving to Barca on a free.

If İlkay is gone, then we should be kicking the tires on players at the caliber of De Jong, Kimmich, Caicedo and Bellingham and forcing all to say no before we extend any of our transfer budget to Kovacic.

If İlkay is staying, then I agree a squad depth position for Kovacic makes sense. He just can't be expected to be in our starting eleven come next August.
I just don't think he is good enough for that.
 
CTIDANDREW said:
Well it's a tough question to answer, because I would need to know if İlkay is coming back for two seasons (as reported) or leaving to Barca on a free.

If İlkay is gone, then we should be kicking the tires on players at the caliber of De Jong, Kimmich, Caicedo and Bellingham and forcing all to say no before we extend any of our transfer budget to Kovacic.

If İlkay is staying, then I agree a squad depth position for Kovacic makes sense. He just can't be expected to be in our starting eleven come next August.
I just don't think he is good enough for that.
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Kovacic is being reported as a body added to our depth. No report suggest he replace anyone. Getting this level of player for 30 mil is impressive work. Anyone of those you mentioned costs 80m+

And yes, if Bernardo and/or Gundo goes both need replacing. But, as reports suggest, he's added for depth in 8 and 6
 
DeBlueLou said:
Kovacic is being reported as a body added to our depth. No report suggest he replace anyone. Getting this level of player for 30 mil is impressive work. Anyone of those you mentioned costs 80m+

And yes, if Bernardo and/or Gundo goes both need replacing. But, as reports suggest, he's added for depth in 8 and 6
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Yes, all fair points.
I would just rather see another player added at squad depth is all.
Lavia with the buy back clause makes more sense in my opinion over an aging Kovacic.

Regardless, this looks like it is happening so I'll get on board and put my trust in Pep.
 
CTIDANDREW said:
Yes, all fair points.
I would just rather see another player added at squad depth is all.
Lavia with the buy back clause makes more sense in my opinion over an aging Kovacic.

Regardless, this looks like it is happening so I'll get on board and put my trust in Pep.
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But Lavia may not want to come back mate? A top class international player with huge experience with still at least 3 top years left in him for £30m ish?!
 
CTIDANDREW said:
Yes, all fair points.
I would just rather see another player added at squad depth is all.
Lavia with the buy back clause makes more sense in my opinion over an aging Kovacic.

Regardless, this looks like it is happening so I'll get on board and put my trust in Pep.
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First off, Lavia and Kovacic, totally different players. City are in need of players with cl experience and the ability to just slot into it, Kovacic is that. And Lavia costs a lot more AND probably is in need of more gametime
 
richards30 said:
But Lavia may not want to come back mate? A top class international player with huge experience with still at least 3 top years left in him for £30m ish?!
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DeBlueLou said:
First off, Lavia and Kovacic, totally different players. City are in need of players with cl experience and the ability to just slot into it, Kovacic is that. And Lavia costs a lot more AND probably is in need of more gametime
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I agree that they're different players, but this is Pep we're talking about.
Give him 11 footballers who can pass, press, and control the ball in tight spaces and he will make it work.

Lavia is certainly a player that can do all those things, and is 10 years younger.
You guys are correct that it is good value for Kovacic. I'm just nervous if this is are only midfield target for the summer.
Based on what Tolmie is saying, it doesn't sound like that is the case.
 
CTIDANDREW said:
I agree that they're different players, but this is Pep we're talking about.
Give him 11 footballers who can pass, press, and control the ball in tight spaces and he will make it work.

Lavia is certainly a player that can do all those things, and is 10 years younger.
You guys are correct that it is good value for Kovacic. I'm just nervous if this is are only midfield target for the summer.
Based on what Tolmie is saying, it doesn't sound like that is the case.
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Based on what tolmie says, City aren't only signing Kovacic for the central midfield IF gundo and/or bernardo goes. Calma
 
Complex Simplicity said:
Love watching Kovacic. One of my Favourite non City players, like Moussa Dembele was when he played for Spurs. So technically gifted and press resistant.

Will go up a few levels with Pep's coaching influence.
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Dembele was a wonderful footballer. Spurs decline started when they got rid of him.
 
It’s a good squad signing, no harm adding a quality player to the squad, especially IF someone is to go.

We’ve a squad full of quality players who have title winning and Champions League experience, exciting times, and can see a good summer ahead for City.
 
richards30 said:
But Lavia may not want to come back mate? A top class international player with huge experience with still at least 3 top years left in him for £30m ish?!
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Lavia won’t be coming back imo, Pep was clear last summer he needs plenty of game time at the top level to improve and he won’t get that here. He did ok at Saints but he’s still nowhere near the level right now to be playing often at City.
 
tolmie's hairdoo said:
He's technically perfect, can withstand a lot of pressure on the ball.

I'd say he carries little end product in terms of goals, although he is capable of a real banger.

For me, it's smart business because he will give us two or three good years and then we can go again.

There will be little drop off, certainly in terms of keeping the ball and moving through the lines, added to the fact he has won big at big clubs.

£30m these days doesn't even get you McTominay.
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Moves like this are smart especially for a club that pumps so much into the academy. In 3 years we might have a ready made replacement, we don’t currently. It’s not like it’s a 100m 10year project. Great business.
 
Tony - MCFC said:
Lavia won’t be coming back imo, Pep was clear last summer he needs plenty of game time at the top level to improve and he won’t get that here. He did ok at Saints but he’s still nowhere near the level right now to be playing often at City.
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Agreed mate, no doubt we will be watching him to see if/how he develops for a potential future move.
 
richards30 said:
Agreed mate, no doubt we will be watching him to see if/how he develops for a potential future move.
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Absolutely mate. He’s certainly not to blame for Saints plight but fact is he impressed in that woeful side. He needs another step up in class imo, perhaps WHU or even BHA perhaps. If he is still the top player in those sides, fair play.
 
Tony - MCFC said:
Lavia won’t be coming back imo, Pep was clear last summer he needs plenty of game time at the top level to improve and he won’t get that here. He did ok at Saints but he’s still nowhere near the level right now to be playing often at City.
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Finally somebody being realistic about Lavia, a young kid with loads of potential who is nowhere near ready to play a big role in a side like City. Maybe down the road in a couple of years...
 
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