Community Shield - Arsenal (N) | Sun 6th Aug - 16:00

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But a concession nonetheless and a tacit admission that they got it wrong originally.
It's NOT a victory of any kind.

The matter goes MUCH further than this location or time ,despite it affecting us on this occasion.

The FA PL,SKY etc promised to put fans first following the ESL fiasco.

Hollow words.

Fans are treated arrogantly and appallingly and now is the opportunity to make a public stand and garner support from the wider football base.

We must not only stand by our guns, but raise the stakes and profile by engaging with all Manchester based MPs and get questions asked in Parliament.

BOYCOTT...and exercise your right to donate to a charity of your choosing !!
 
It's NOT a victory of any kind.

The matter goes MUCH further than this location or time ,despite it affecting us on this occasion.

The FA PL,SKY etc promised to put fans first following the ESL fiasco.

Hollow words.

Fans are treated arrogantly and appallingly and now is the opportunity to make a public stand and garner support from the wider football base.

We must not only stand by our guns, but raise the stakes and profile by engaging with all Manchester based MPs and get questions asked in Parliament.

BOYCOTT...and exercise your right to donate to a charity of your choosing !!
Who is your MP in the UAE?
 
And double price for taxis. @Stephen230 is always saying the opposite, no matter what the topic.
I can only speak for myself. Before any boycott was announced I said I wasn't going. City play an under strength team and rightly treat it as a friendly. The FA treat it as a cash cow and us as fuckwits. 200 miles to a shithole stadium with overpriced tickets and beer.
I don't do friendlies and I won't watch this on TV, why give advertisers the money, it defeats a boycott. I give my full backing to 1894 and anyone else that supports them.

I wasn’t saying the opposite of anything. I was merely stating a fact that even with a 5.30 kick off and the game going to penalties, anybody could have comfortably made it back to Euston for the last couple of direct trains, without rushing in the slightest. With a 4 pm kick off, they’ll be a choice of at least another couple of trains.

That’s not a contrary opinion. It’s a simple statement of fact.
 
It's NOT a victory of any kind.

The matter goes MUCH further than this location or time ,despite it affecting us on this occasion.

The FA PL,SKY etc promised to put fans first following the ESL fiasco.

Hollow words.

Fans are treated arrogantly and appallingly and now is the opportunity to make a public stand and garner support from the wider football base.

We must not only stand by our guns, but raise the stakes and profile by engaging with all Manchester based MPs and get questions asked in Parliament.

BOYCOTT...and exercise your right to donate to a charity of your choosing !!
We need to demonstrate a structure and strategy of professionalism and pragmatism....not uncoordinated,enthusiastic amateurs.

The FA, City, media etc will now keep their heads down and hope this all fizzles out through the summer.

We need to be militant disrupters and target FA assets etc.

Mancunians are famed World wide for our belligerence and support of worthwhile causes.

It was that mentality that stuffed scousers with the Manchester Ship Canal, fought the military police at Peterloo, backed the abolition of slavery and spawned the spirit of Emily Pankhurst.

This campaign needs a NATIONAL IDENTITY to rally behind and a credible personality the front it.

The BLACK FLAG CAMPAIGN has a ring to it and others will have ideas regarding a front man or woman to front it.

If there are 50 fans prepared to lobby the FA offices at their head quarters at St George's Park,Burton on Trent, I'll organise and pay for a return coach journey.

A half day demo,with media presence, will raise the profile and alert the FA to the fact that we know where they 'live'.

A coordinated 'visit' to Wembley can also be considered.

'If you don't stand up for something you'll fall for everything'

Thoughts ?
 
You are so right - when I was on the FSA committee we'd try and get campaigns going to help save a club or make them aware of an issue another club's fans were dealing with and it was the same.reply every time -
Fuck them (insert rags / scousers / cockney / brummie etc etc etc) twats.
The German's do it a lot. They will put down their rivalry and stand / march side by side demonstrating whatever issue.
Here the FA know we are too busy shouting "empty seats / dippers" at each other and waving inflatable European Cups at rival fans.
Twice fans have stood together and both times we got the result- Game 39 and the Euro Super League.

We can have it all, but how much do you wan'-it

I remember about 15/20 years ago, fans came together and supported Brighton one year. Shirts of different colours all over the stadium.
 
I wasn’t saying the opposite of anything. I was merely stating a fact that even with a 5.30 kick off and the game going to penalties, anybody could have comfortably made it back to Euston for the last couple of direct trains, without rushing in the slightest. With a 4 pm kick off, they’ll be a choice of at least another couple of trains.

That’s not a contrary opinion. It’s a simple statement of fact.
How many fans can a train take ?
Have you ever stood up for 3 hours on a Euston train after Wembley? I have been rammed onto one, it is not a pleasant experience.
£100 plus to be in a cattle truck that Defra would condemn.
So, I ask again, have you ever travelled back by train from the FA cash cow ?
 
Dear FA

This game should always be at 3.00pm on the Saturday before the season starts. If the game has to be played at Wembley then all tickets should be priced at £30 regardless of where the seat is. Stop trying to scam as much money out of fans as you can with your overpriced tickets, food and drink. We haven’t forgotten why it’s now called the community shield and not the charity shield despite your PR spin at the time. Moving the game by 90 minutes just doesn’t wash with the fans. Maybe you could become a fan for the day and travel with us normal fans and see how much of a pain it is and the true cost. No fancy food and being waited on, no chauffeur driven cars picking you up, dropping you off and avoiding all the traffic, no freebies. Just like a normal fan being treated like shit. And if you are game on for the experience bring your UEFA mates along as well. We can make sure they are at the box park nine hours before kick off with overpriced food and drink on offer but this will run out three hours before kick off. You make me sick with all your platitude.
 
priced at £30 regardless of where the seat is. Stop trying to scam as much money out of fans as you can with your overpriced tickets, food and drink. We haven’t forgotten why it’s now called the community shield and not the charity shield despite your PR spin at the time. Moving the game by 90 minutes just doesn’t wash with the fans. Maybe you could become a fan for the day and travel with us normal fans and see how much of a pain it is and the true cost. No fancy food and being waited on, no chauffeur driven cars picking you up, dropping you off and avoiding all the traffic, no freebies. Just like a normal fan being treated like shit. And if you are game on for the experience bring your UEFA mates along as well. We can make sure they are at the box park nine hours before kick off with overpriced food and drink on offer but this will run out three hours before kick off. You make me sick with all your platitude.
Increase prices???
 
How many fans can a train take ?
Have you ever stood up for 3 hours on a Euston train after Wembley? I have been rammed onto one, it is not a pleasant experience.
£100 plus to be in a cattle truck that Defra would condemn.
So, I ask again, have you ever travelled back by train from the FA cash cow ?

But I wasn’t debating the pros and cons of train travel. I was just correcting whoever it was said you were going to struggle to make the last train home.

But to answer your question, I’ve been travelling to away games for over 40 years, almost exclusively by train. So yes, I’ve been on plenty where it’s standing room only. The last time was about a month ago, going to Brentford, where the trains were jam packed with Stockport die hards.
 
That`s exactly what we are doing. Treble Winners. Champions League winners.

We are not going cap in hand, grateful for the scraps, getting into the Europa Cup or whatever through fair play.
We are 3 times on the trot Premier League winners, 5 times in 6 years, two Doubles in 5 years, a Quardrupple, a Treble.

We are not at the behest of bureaucrats at the FA who look after themselves, care only for their shorter travel arrangements,lower costs and own conv1enience.

They should all come up North.

They have already just caved in on the ko time. That`s what fan power can do.

Next we should demand it is played at The Etihad or if push comes to shove, 16:00 on Sunday 6 August at the swamp where we can run round before the match with all our trophies from all our teams.
We'd need a 12 o'clock KO to do all that!
 
It's NOT a victory of any kind.

The matter goes MUCH further than this location or time ,despite it affecting us on this occasion.

The FA PL,SKY etc promised to put fans first following the ESL fiasco.

Hollow words.

Fans are treated arrogantly and appallingly and now is the opportunity to make a public stand and garner support from the wider football base.

We must not only stand by our guns, but raise the stakes and profile by engaging with all Manchester based MPs and get questions asked in Parliament.

BOYCOTT...and exercise your right to donate to a charity of your choosing !!
I think what needs to be decided soon is what it is we want?
By that I mean are we demanding the kick off is at a certain / day and if so what time.and what day? Be very difficult to please everyone of course.
My own personal view is to simply say "No. We don't care what day / date you change it to we simply have had enough of your greed, incompetence and disregard for match going fans and we are going.to give you something to think about." and let them watch the game with half a stadium.
They may even offer more tickets to Arsenal fans or give them away to fill the seats. But they will know what we've done and will give them food for thought
 
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