Declan Rice

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Hmmm, by the sounds of it, the bid is going to be rejected. Honestly thought that if we eventually bid, it'd be at West Ham's valuation

They don't know their valuation...I mean, they don't know how high City/Arsenal would go. We also don't know the limit to which Arsenal would go. But we are highly likely to offer W Ham a better deal, if not in terms of overall numbers, say 100m, then in terms of structure.
 
I wonder if rice is concerned about the impact it will have professionally and personally with his relationship with phillips. Either hes here to directly compete (and probably prevent phillips play) or hes effectively forcing him out of city when phillips clearly wants to stay.

Not easy given they both in the england set up
Not a chance he would give it a second thought, football is ruthless at all levels, the higher up the food chain it becomes vicious.

Phillips has had his chance, he did not take it, one day the full story of the post world cup Pep fall out will be known.

Once you have lost the trust of Pep your done.
 
They don't know their valuation...I mean, they don't know how high City/Arsenal would go. We also don't know the limit to which Arsenal would go. But we are highly likely to offer W Ham a better deal, if not in terms of overall numbers, say 100m, then in terms of structure.

They do know their valuation - they want a package of 100m, with 80-85m up front, easily achievable add ons and a shorter payment schedule. Whether City or Arsenal fulfil that is a different matter. City don't often get in bidding wars, so to bid an amount that's likely to get rejected/doesn't force other bidders to back down is an interesting move.
 
Why not bid £90mill and £10mill add ons? Boom! Done and dusted. Unless City know the first bid will be rejected and that will be the 2nd bid?

Think you answered your own question. WH would always be likely to reject the first bid, while Arsenal are still at the table. They and we would both expect an improved Arsenal bid, that we'd then again 'match'.
 
Not a chance he would give it a second thought, football is ruthless at all levels, the higher up the food chain it becomes vicious.

Phillips has had his chance, he did not take it, one day the full story of the post world cup Pep fall out will be known.

Once you have lost the trust of Pep your done.
Phillips probably escaped a similar fate to cancelo because hes a nice guy.
Aguero came very close to suffering similar wrath because of weight and willingness issues early on too.
Phillips in the long run was always gone because hes not quite good enough and aguero was.

But yeah, piss pep off at your peril
 
They do know their valuation - they want a package of 100m, with 80-85m up front, easily achievable add ons and a shorter payment schedule. Whether City or Arsenal fulfil that is a different matter. City don't often get in bidding wars, so to bid an amount that's likely to get rejected/doesn't force other bidders to back down is an interesting move.

Again, given the race between us and Arsenal, they don't know how high both clubs would go in terms of overall numbers and structure. They wouldn't accept less money/worse structure than they could get.

Guess they'll reject our 1st offer, Arsenal will (slightly) improve on it, and we'll go above Arsenal's. And that will be that. Something like 85m plus 12m in add ons.
 
Would buying rice save us buying a defender because stones will slip seamlessly back into defence?

No, we want Gvardiol because of his passing ability. Ake's been superb but he is not as good as Laporte and Gvardiol in the build up play. Gvardiol replaces both Laporte and Cancelo.
 
This talk of rejecting bids is a bit simplistic. West Ham and City will now be in a dialogue and City will be aware of the changes they need to make to the bid to get it over the line. City are in no hurry.
 
Hope this goes through, just feel his development under Pep would be brilliant, is he now better than Rodri was when he 1st came to City? his attitude seems perfect just like Rodri.

I know Rodri is the best DM in the world now.
 
No, because we need a left-sided defender. We can’t just go with Ake. Having a left footer is too important to our build up and rhythm.
Ake is left footed
think the question was more about potential walker moving not the left side where we obviously need an extea body

stones can operate RCB or RB alongside Lewis
 
Phillips probably escaped a similar fate to cancelo because hes a nice guy.
Aguero came very close to suffering similar wrath because of weight and willingness issues early on too.
Phillips in the long run was always gone because hes not quite good enough and aguero was.

But yeah, piss pep off at your peril
100%

Ake , Grealish and Mahrez all had difficult starts but they clearly had talent and desire. not sure Kalvin has enough of either.
 
I still think he’ll choose Arsenal, not because Declan Rice doesn’t wanna come, I just don’t think his girlfriend wants to move north, just my opinion.
And in 25 years time he’ll be staring at her menacingly for denying him the chance of silverware. Meanwhile their youngest strikes an uncanny resemblance to Ray ‘party’ Parlour.

Don’t listen to your woman, Declan!
 
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