It's Quiet 18 - Wanna ring the bell?

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SterlingSilvas said:
you can move any of hte B list to the club trained, doesnt really make a difference to the limits
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Yes I know that - but until we are producing more players who can go on and be established first team players through their prime years then we are always looked at as the golden egg as soon as we look to sign an English trained player. And it will help any future manager who wants to operate with a bigger more experienced squad than Pep does to be able to fill those three places with players in their mid-20's.
 
cyan said:
Yes I know that - but until we are producing more players who can go on and be established first team players through their prime years then we are always looked at as the golden egg as soon as we look to sign an English trained player. And it will help any future manager who wants to operate with a bigger more experienced squad than Pep does to be able to fill those three places with players in their mid-20's.
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yeah, thats where buyback's come in handy later on. need to be a perfect storm of talent and opportunity to get a shot at 18 and keep it. Frimpong for example could be signed and he'd be eligible for one.
 
bluenova said:
According to transfermarkt, about £63m - but that is a complete outlier, and £20m+ more than their next highest transfer.

AC Milan have never even got near those kind of figures - their record is £36m. Monaco's is under £40m. Leipzig around £30m.

I think a lot of our players are being quoted around the £50m-£60m mark, probably because of all the £50m transfers in the PL, but that would be close to an all time record for all but the biggest of Champions League clubs.

These clubs are not going to be stumping up record fees for defenders/midfielders in the age range that we're selling.

Domestic transfers are obviously where the money comes in, but I get the impression we aren't as keen on selling locally, and our want-aways less keen on staying in England.
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Sterling, Zinchenko and Jesus were sold to EPL clubs.

Personally I think there’s only one club we don’t sell to, if there’s a deal to be had, and none of our squad would ever risk their reputation on that clown-show anyway
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Because there’s more English players in the academy? To be fair I would say the English lads in our academy are the best players and have been for a while now. Much more likely to stick with the club as well.
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The only English player from our Academy that has been a consistent success is Phil Foden but last season was one of his weakest seasons since he broke through and isn't still fully trusted to play centrally under Pep.
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
Because there’s more English players in the academy? To be fair I would say the English lads in our academy are the best players and have been for a while now. Much more likely to stick with the club as well.
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Possibly true but the likes of Bobb, Borges etc. would not be with us.
The European teams will have an advantage in that they still have the option of getting young players from other countries.
e.g. PSG can still have a young player from Spain in their academy.
 
RayCTID said:
The only English player from our Academy that has been a consistent success is Phil Foden but last season was one of his weakest seasons since he broke through and isn't still fully trusted to play centrally under Pep.
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The only youth player at all who has been a consistent success is foden. English or not. But we currently have a crop of players who are some of the best young players in Europe in my opinion - Trafford, Bellis, Macatee, Palmer, Lewis.

It’s incredibly difficult to get into our first team either way. English youth players aren’t reducing the quality, if anything they are improving it. Consistently the best players across Europe/ different age groups
 
Cheadle_hulmeBlue said:
The only youth player at all who has been a consistent success is foden. English or not. But we currently have a crop of players who are some of the best young players in Europe in my opinion - Trafford, Bellis, Macatee, Palmer, Lewis.

It’s incredibly difficult to get into our first team either way
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THB isn't quite good enough for us but we get a decent fee, I wouldn't mind giving McAtee a fair go but again I doubt he will be affored much game time same with Cole Palmer. Same with Trafford. Lewis is promising showed encouraging signs he is worth keeping and he can fully make it at City.
 
paska said:
Sterling, Zinchenko and Jesus were sold to EPL clubs.

Personally I think there’s only one club we don’t sell to, if there’s a deal to be had, and none of our squad would ever risk their reputation on that clown-show anyway
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That's the point that's usually made - it may not be true, but seems to be a lot of mentions in the transfer news that City aren't keen on selling to rival clubs.

Also regular suggestions that some of the players that want to leave aren't looking to go to other PL clubs.
 
Xhavenjoe said:
Possibly true but the likes of Bobb, Borges etc. would not be with us.
The European teams will have an advantage in that they still have the option of getting young players from other countries.
e.g. PSG can still have a young player from Spain in their academy.
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The next Bobb, Lavia, Muric, Diaz, Garcia, Gomes, Maffeo, Pozo, Angeliño, Iheanacho et al, will have to spend their formative years at Troyes, Lommel, Palermo, or Girona.

Not exactly a hardship for the player, but it will effect their homegrown status, they’ll have less emotional connection to the city of Manchester and to the club, and they won’t benefit from having trained with the rest of our youth side.

Fine if the only intention is to sell, as we did with the majority of those names anyway. But if we ever considered them for the first team, the brexit rules are going to impact on that.

Majority have been Spaniards, I suppose they’d have all been at Girona, had the law been as it is now.
 


Really classy player and probably one of the most stylistically similar players to gundo.

Also watched the podcast where that quote was cited from and he mentions how he loves and adores gundogan and asked for his shirt one time if I’m not mistaken.

Newcastle are having “ffp” issues and need cash(not like they’re truly in need of it) to find their summer window. I wouldn’t be against testing the waters and bidding for Guimaraes.
 
FatedBlue77 said:


Really classy player and probably one of the most stylistically similar players to gundo.

Also watched the podcast where that quote was cited from and he mentions how he loves and adores gundogan and asked for his shirt one time if I’m not mistaken.

Newcastle are having “ffp” issues and need cash(not like they’re truly in need of it) to find their summer window. I wouldn’t be against testing the waters and bidding for Guimaraes.
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Not a chance. Quality player
 
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