North Stand Construction Discussion

I'm not well up on planning but i didnt think things like, moving turnstiles, isolation and taking down temp structures required planning permissions.
There was a second application for relocating the club shop and associated work which is probably going on here !
 
I'm not well up on planning but i didnt think things like, moving turnstiles, isolation and taking down temp structures required planning permissions.

Not really, not if it is of any notable scale. Depends on the extent and impact, and most of all accessibility arrangements. In this case significant enough to need approval.

There are two separate approvals in place. 'Alterations to concourse to improve access and egress and associated works' which was approved in June and covers moving turnstiles, exits and gates etc (ref. 136949/FO/23). And one for the club shop and associated relocation works which covers the temporary structures etc. (136433/FO/23). There is even an approval for the trial pits and site investigation etc granted in June, as it apparently affects access around the stadium.

Not that the details matter I suppose, the club will obviously do everything professionally and by the book. I'm pointing it out more to counter the perception that 'they must be so confident they'll get approval for the big one that they have already started'. They most likely Are confident they will get approval, and they Have already started, but what they started is fully covered separately, as it should be.
 
It’s a very long read. Good luck to anyone who decides to read it all. Definitely worth looking through at least.

136763/FO/2023 - Etihad Stadium (North Stand), Etihad Campus, Manchester, M11 3FF - Ancoats & Beswick Ward
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The report of the Director of Planning, Building Control and Licensing is enclosed.

Recommendation Minded to Approve subject to the signing of a section 106 agreement with regards monies for a movement strategy
around the Etihad Campus, community use, local labour commitments and waste management arrangements
Article 35 Declaration

Officers have worked with the applicant in a positive and proactive manner based on seeking solutions to problems arising in relation to dealing with the planning application. Pre application advice has been sought in respect of this matter where early discussions took place regarding the siting/layout, scale, design and appearance of the development along with other matters. The proposal is considered to be acceptable and therefore determined within a timely manner.

 
It’s a very long read. Good luck to anyone who decides to read it all. Definitely worth looking through at least.

136763/FO/2023 - Etihad Stadium (North Stand), Etihad Campus, Manchester, M11 3FF - Ancoats & Beswick Ward
pdf icon
PDF 4 MB

The report of the Director of Planning, Building Control and Licensing is enclosed.

Recommendation Minded to Approve subject to the signing of a section 106 agreement with regards monies for a movement strategy
around the Etihad Campus, community use, local labour commitments and waste management arrangements
Article 35 Declaration

Officers have worked with the applicant in a positive and proactive manner based on seeking solutions to problems arising in relation to dealing with the planning application. Pre application advice has been sought in respect of this matter where early discussions took place regarding the siting/layout, scale, design and appearance of the development along with other matters. The proposal is considered to be acceptable and therefore determined within a timely manner.


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I wonder what the split is of utd v City supporting councillors who will be voting on this.
It's a lady apparently who will decide or rather approve ! Why do you think City have moved the club shop and started some ground work if they didn't already know it would be approved !
 
It's a lady apparently who will decide or rather approve ! Why do you think City have moved the club shop and started some ground work if they didn't already know it would be approved !

It is not. It is a committee of councilors, who will vote on it. That was set from when it was lodged. Read back through the pages on their already starting. They will of course vote above football allegiance. Don't think anyone has any concern about it not being approved, could even be unanimous. But the curiousty of who backs which club is entirely natural.
 
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It is not. It is a committee of councilors, who will vote on it. That was set from when it was lodged. Read back through the pages on their already starting. They will of course vote above football allegiance. Don't think anyone has any concern about it not being approved, could even be unanimous. But the curiousty of who backs which club is entirely natural.

Link to the live meeting next week below, if anyone wants to watch it? You'll be able to watch the recorded meeting on Vimeo if you miss the live meeting.


 
The 2 large video screens on the ends of the hotel, Museum and office block will be discussed and voted on at a separate and future council meeting. There are concerns about them. There's a paragraph about it buried in the report.
 
The 2 large video screens on the ends of the hotel, Museum and office block will be discussed and voted on at a separate and future council meeting. There are concerns about them. There's a paragraph about it buried in the report.

They are also under a separate advertising application, so the scheme can still be approved without them. Haven't had the chance to read the report, but that was the one I was mentioning I was looking out for. From the brief glimpse, it is obvious the club worked with the Planners throughout this and nothing put forward would have been seen as contentious.
 
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They are also under a separate advertising application, so the scheme can still be approved without them. Haven't had the chance to read the report, but that was the one I was mentioning I was looking out for. From the brief glimpse, it is obvious the club worked with the Planners throughout this and nothing put forward would have been seen as contentious.

Found It. Just 2 lines.

The impact of the LED screens would be considered as part of a separate Advertisement Application including any impact on nearby homes.

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Found It. Just 2 lines.

The impact of the LED screens would be considered as part of a separate Advertisement Application including any impact on nearby homes.

Ha I said it before having read it. I don't think many might appreciate it, but the club have been very clever, splitting this into effectively 5 separate applications. Ensuring that at no point are they sat waiting on the wheels of processing turning. The boards would have needed an advertising consent anyway, but leaving it out of this one means less risk and channels obvious objections elsewhere. Similarly the 3 other applications around the grounds mean they can start multiple parts without waiting for this one, and control their build timeframe. Have to say, the planners have done really well to get this to committee for the end of July, it is faster than I would have expected. Particularly if you consider they also processed 4 other applications for the club simultaneously. But at the time of submitting the club obviously wouldn't gamble on that vs waiting all summer to get consent, hence they got in 3 smaller, less contentious applications which are below the committee threshold, to allow them to start when they intended. Now to just sit back and watch this go through, and then the headlines start all over again.
 

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