Cashless society

mexico1970 said:
People don't want that though, they want a choice. Looks like the plastic wavers want to amble into the matrix and drag everyone along with them ;)
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Yeah, I’m not convinced he’s looking at this correctly! Wages will still go directly to bank but if folk want to withdraw for whatever reason then it should be an option.

I can see me going on a big fuck off spending spree in about 20 years a couple of weeks before they try and take it all from me! :-)
 
Phil1 said:
Yeah, I’m not convinced he’s looking at this correctly! Wages will still go directly to bank but if folk want to withdraw for whatever reason then it should be an option.

I can see me going on a big fuck off spending spree in about 20 years a couple of weeks before they try and take it all from me! :-)
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Show me one example of someone going in to a cash only venue and walking out with products without paying correctly.

Swansea started card only to speed up service on the concourse. They extended it to the shop as it worked well.
 
The Mrs goes mental when we get a cheque or cash payment. Much easier to send an email invoice and get a BACS transfer, sometimes almost immediatly. Having said that, a lot of our clients are scattered across the country, some abroad. I still cant see a cashless society any time soon unless it's becomes a mandatory thing.
 
MCFC Wirral said:
Show me one example of someone going in to a cash only venue and walking out with products without paying correctly.

Swansea started card only to speed up service on the concourse. They extended it to the shop as it worked well.
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You were talking about people getting paid all their wages in cash, which whilst that obviously happens in certain industries isn’t really the norm. The ones that do tend to get it daily or weekly as well so not as though they’re carrying a couple of grand in their back pockets.
Not sure what that first paragraph means?
 
Tuearts right boot said:
The Mrs goes mental when we get a cheque or cash payment. Much easier to send an email invoice and get a BACS transfer, sometimes almost immediatly. Having said that, a lot of our clients are scattered across the country, some abroad. I still cant see a cashless society any time soon unless it's becomes a mandatory thing.
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That’s the thing, cash isn’t the best option for many but for those it is they should be afforded the option.
 
Phil1 said:
You were talking about people getting paid all their wages in cash, which whilst that obviously happens in certain industries isn’t really the norm. The ones that do tend to get it daily or weekly as well so not as though they’re carrying a couple of grand in their back pockets.
Not sure what that first paragraph means?
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Think he meant to say card only venue not cash. No other way that sentence makes sense.
 
Phil1 said:
Yeah, I’m not convinced he’s looking at this correctly! Wages will still go directly to bank but if folk want to withdraw for whatever reason then it should be an option.

I can see me going on a big fuck off spending spree in about 20 years a couple of weeks before they try and take it all from me! :-)
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I suppose the new way is removing choice, I am still apprehensive about anything that involves me giving something up that we like or are used to.

Acquiescence for me isn't an option when I smell a Rat, what possible reason can someone object to me using cash but feels affronted when you question why they are just using a card?
 
Gaz in Zurich said:
It's the CBDC's you have to worry about, not paying with your card like now. When the government can take financial privileges away for posting the wrong word on social media, saying the wrong thing in a call to parents, or sending the wrong photo to relatives, individuals self‐censor and exercise extreme caution. In this way, control over money can create a social chilling effect. I work for a bank in the IT dept and the amount of info they have about people, by mining your transactions is unreal. When the Govt have this info, they could impose limits on how you spend it.. Eat too many takeaways, they could limit you to once week, on the pretext of it's bad for your health. On the dole and smoke too much, they could impose a ration. Avoid it like the plague
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Yeah, the thing is tho, they largely do things like that on the basis of what voters fancy. Like 2 kid limit on child benefit. I mean. Take it out of the kids, keep them in hand me downs and cheap food, no outings. So they know they're less than other people. That'll have em raised into proper self-respecting citizens. Utter nonsense. But it appeals to people. It's virtue signalling of a sort.

But the thing is it comes from public opinion. Nearly all this stuff does. People say the government are the enemy. I say we are. And there's no way around it. Just hoping reasonableness prevails. But we aren't terribly reasonable, are we? All chewed up and paranoid. Jealous. Skewed. Angry. Prone to believing nonsense. Best intentions that are bound to go horribly wrong. Sure we know better, proudly defending our worst misconceptions more and more fiercly. It applies to every single one of us.
 
Bill Walker said:
I'd be shocked if that were true, it's illegal.

Even the bank wouldn't allow it.
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When you sign up to get a bank account it's in the terms and conditions that the account is only for the benefit of the named legal holder.

Correct.As you know, without prescribed legal documents such as a grant of power of attorney there isn't any other means to access a bank other than fraudulent or powers of law enforcement (usually requiring warrant or court order).
 
Mr Kobayashi said:
Nobody gets paid wages monthly.

If you get paid monthly it's a salary.

If you get paid wages, it's daily, weekly or fortnightly.
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Maybe I don’t fully understand the official definitions. But from what I think the difference is, I know loads of people who get paid a wage monthly. Or 4 weekly.
 
Stephen230 said:
Maybe I don’t fully understand the official definitions. But from what I think the difference is, I know loads of people who get paid a wage monthly. Or 4 weekly.
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That's presumably because of a measure brought in by their employer to cut the admin time and cost of paying wages at more regular intervals.

If they get a variable payment then it is wages.

If it's a fixed payment every month then it's salary.(excluding non-regular remuneration such as bonuses, overtime)

Generally employers paying wages have more casual terms and conditions of employment so it would be more common to pay more regularly than monthly.
 
I don't use cash , if I go anywhere and it's cash only I shop elsewhere. Just my personal preference . I see zero advantage in going to a bank or cash machine to get paper that I could lose & getting bits of metal to put in my pocket as change
 
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