United Thread - 2023/24

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remember arthur mann said:
Goldberg and his disciples last night, were going on about the rag's having nicked Arsenal's doctor.
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Is it a conspiracy? I'm sure there's more to it than one person, though. The whole conditioning and fitness level of your players it reliant on a huge team of experts.

It's funny, because 20 years ago they were the ones who started all the scientific analysis of players, pro-zone, induvial diet plans, pilates, ice baths.

Now everybody else is doing it better.
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
Andy Rag Mitten on sky sports just now.

He actually said the rags were unlucky with gaspachio’s offside goal ruled out by VAR and Poundland Haaland’s goal against Brighton ruled out by VAR.

No mention that he WAS offside and the ball WAS out. Nothing to do with luck.
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The penalty shout at Spurs was a valid complaint, but the other VAR calls were right, even if it is only a matter of centimeters.

And the disallowed goal at Arsenal didn't necessary mean that they would have won that game, there was 14 minutes of extra time added on at the end of the match. And Johnny Evans was playing.
 
Silva61 said:
Can anybody confirm what Ferguson's role is at the rags?
Heard he is paid £2m a year as an advisor and sits on some secondary board of directors.
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When he was manager he charged the club £4 million a year for publicity rights (picture in program etc etc). This was charged through a media company with himself and his wife as directors.
When he retired his son negotiated a publicity role meaning he was to attend 20 matched a season and for that he charged £2 million a season.

His role as director on Man Utd is in addition to these posts
 
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standupifyouhatemanu said:
Andy Rag Mitten on sky sports just now.

He actually said the rags were unlucky with gaspachio’s offside goal ruled out by VAR and Poundland Haaland’s goal against Brighton ruled out by VAR.

No mention that he WAS offside and the ball WAS out. Nothing to do with luck.
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That's because for the last 25 years anything like that they got. They knew they weren't legitimate goals but didn't give a fuck. Now VAR is fucking them they don't like it.

Weren't fucking moaning last year in the derby.

Andy Mitten is an absolute whopper as well.
 
Keep the Faith said:
When he was manager he charged the club £4 million a year for publicity rights (picture in program etc etc). This was charged through a media company with himself and his wife as directors.
When he retired his son negotiated a publicity role meaning he was to attend 20 matched a season and for that he charged £2.
His role as director on Man Utd is in addition to these posts
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20 games for 2 quid, I still wouldn’t go near the theatre of leaking roofs. -:)
 
Dobsy said:
I've a feeling Burnley might do them.

I thought Ten Hag would sort them out but if it's not one thing it's another. They just seem to make players worse.

Remember that Pep wanted Maguire, Fred and Sanchez who absolutely flopped.

Sancho was framed as a game changer but is now persona non grata.

Wan Bissaka was considered to be one of the most promising young players in the country.

Casemiro started well for them but looked like an absolute shadow of his former self in the Brighton highlights.

Varane is on a retirement tour.

Donny Van de Beek is still on their books.

Onana was apparently brought in for his distribution but is already taking pelters for just not being very good at it.
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United correspondent, no less, on the Athletic football podcast last week described OT as a Bermuda Triangle of Talent.
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
Andy Rag Mitten on sky sports just now.

He actually said the rags were unlucky with gaspachio’s offside goal ruled out by VAR and Poundland Haaland’s goal against Brighton ruled out by VAR.

No mention that he WAS offside and the ball WAS out. Nothing to do with luck.
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this is what they dont understand, they think they are unlucky, they just cant get it through their head, that actual correct decisions are being given against em now, why do you think neville was trying to discredit var for the arsenal goal yesterday, now they have figured out that var isnt there solely to help them and it can give correct decisions that they dont like now it is a bad thing
 
Keep the Faith said:
When he was manager he charged the club £4 million a year for publicity rights (picture in program etc etc). This was charged through a media company with himself and his wife as directors.
When he retired his son negotiated a publicity role meaning he was to attend 20 matched a season and for that he charged £2.
His role as director on Man Utd is in addition to these posts
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10p a match sounds about right.
 
aguero93:20 said:
La Liga are going to be busy so.
Strange that they'll publish teams for abusing a rapist and woman beater, but not for racially abusing a player whose done nothing wrong.
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honestly if he cant handle it in spain then he really does not want to be coming back to the uk as it will be so much worse here, im not saying that he cant make money but at the end of the day if you have done something sometimes you have to accept what comes with that and not expect others to be punished because the consequences of your actions upset you
 
The rot is too deep set for any manager to sort out because it's not just the players it's the whole structure, someone previously said they were stuck in the 90s, that's a syndrome common in failing companies and countries (not to mention people) relying on past glories and thinking the same strategies are going to work in a new era with new competition is a recipe for disaster

I can see little sign of any serious change, if I was an investor I would keep well away
 
mancboy said:
honestly if he cant handle it in spain then he really does not want to be coming back to the uk as it will be so much worse here, im not saying that he cant make money but at the end of the day if you have done something sometimes you have to accept what comes with that and not expect others to be punished because the consequences of your actions upset you
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Could get a lot worse for him in Spain tbh. Osasuna don't exactly have 'scary' supporters. Real Betis and Atleti away await.
 
standupifyouhatemanu said:
Andy Rag Mitten on sky sports just now.

He actually said the rags were unlucky with gaspachio’s offside goal ruled out by VAR and Poundland Haaland’s goal against Brighton ruled out by VAR.

No mention that he WAS offside and the ball WAS out. Nothing to do with luck.
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Five games in and there hasn’t been one game where you felt the rags deserved to win the game. There has been two marginal calls via VAR ruling goals out but what about how bad they have been, this off the back when Ten Hag has been bedding in new players to make a difference to the squad. I have seen some articles starting to be penned calling out Ten Hag, it looks like he is suffering second season syndrome which started the rot that ended Solksjaer.

Maybe letting De Gea go was a mistake, he would pull off the odd decent stop or keep them from conceding. Onana doesn’t have that and there has been no change to their play with his passing.
 
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