PL charge City for alleged breaches of financial rules

ZanteWeatherman said:
There would be one problem with this scenario.
If it were to be proven that we were using "friends in high places" to have effectively threatened to withdraw investment in the UK as a tool in these "charges", the press and resultant fall-out would be astronomical.......... and ad infinitum. A political shit-storm in the making and the ruination of our club. Khaldoun is not stupid.
Therefore, never going to happen.
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Don’t think it would be an issue tbh. If leverage was applied and the EPL and its panel were advised by the government to kill the investigation for the greater national interest, the government could also slap what I think are called D notices on the issue to request no reporting for the next one hundred years, if they wanted to.
 
I keep reading that Uefa were aware of this and that and there were discussions that had taken place between us and Uefa, while this is all well and good I assume we also had the same conversations with the Premier League, if we didn't then we may have left ourselves exposed.
 
uwe rosler 28 said:
But would the UK be wanting to be seen as accepting money off crooks?? We don't need to threatening withdrawing funding the problem will lie with the government how could they possibly accept money off such people if found guilty???
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Call me cynical, but I reckon that ship has long since sailed!!!
 
SilverFox2 said:
Well it has not affected our togetherness, our results and our finences together with it reflecting in our global influence.
Comprehensive own goal I think but what else can they do.?
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The exact opposite, the charges girded our collective loins. Owners, board, senior management, playing staff, coaching staff, supporters, dinner ladies.

We don't win the treble without these charges being brought. We don't win three in a row. We don't see record revenues, and we possibly don't see the NS extension. We wouldn't see The Etihad becoming the feared fortress it has become. We might not have signed the world superstar who leads our line.

SPECTACULAR own goal by the red shirt history bastards.

Bring on some more I say, make it a nice round 200 charges. That should see us take the 4 in a row, back to back trebles and sign-off on the East & West stand expansions.

In fact, fuck it...make it 400 charges, lets have a 10 year party.
 
Jam Tomorrow said:
Don’t think it would be an issue tbh. If leverage was applied and the EPL and its panel were advised by the government to kill the investigation for the greater national interest, the government could also slap what I think are called D notices on the issue to request no reporting for the next one hundred years, if they wanted to.
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Unworkable in the day of the internet.
D notices are not compulsory and the U.K. Press would just report what was being published abroad.
 

Prestwich_Blue said:
That's also my understanding, and iirc the CAS verdict showed that UEFA had discussed this with City back in 2014 and were happy with the outcome. Therefore if the PL are claiming we overstated our sponsorship income on the basis of the Etisalat arrangement, it's hard to see how they can land this.


The former is correct.

We don't know for certain but there appear to be three core charges - Mancini's Al Jazira contract, the Etisalat sponsorship and image rights payments to players. These have been stretched out over multiple rules and multiple years, plus there's other charges arising from those that won't stand if those specific charges aren't upheld.

UEFA knew about Etisalat and image rights payments well before 2018 yet didn't charge us with any offence (although Etisalat was probably time-barred). They also knew about the Mancini contract in 2018, as a result of the Der Spiegel leaks, yet didn't charge us with that either, despite all the documentation being revealed. We don't know if UEFA discussed it with City as part of the charges that led to CAS, and it didn't come up at CAS so the assumption must be that there wasn't much mileage in that contract.
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You dont think they are re-opening Etihad, PB?

The only reason I ask is that the "erroneous accounts" referals are for 2009-2018. The other three issues don't cover all those years, do they? Unless they are saying the cumulative effect of those three on the share capital / retained loss split in itself prevents a true and fair view in every subsequent year which, to me at least, is a bit of a stretch given the amounts involved.
 
moomba said:
If we were going to use political pressure to escape punishment on these charges, why didnt we we use pressure 4 years ago to not get charged in the first place?
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Hypothetically, of course, you use influence when you have to, you don't just waste it on the offchance something may happen. Imho.
 
halfcenturyup said:
You dont think they are re-opening Etihad, PB?

The only reason I ask is that the "erroneous accounts" referals are for 2009-2018. The other three issues don't cover all those years, do they? Unless they are saying the cumulative effect of those three on the share capital / retained loss split in itself prevents a true and fair view in every subsequent year which, to me at least, is a bit of a stretch given the amounts involved.
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I very much doubt they're re-opening Etihad, unless they think they can do something with the time-barred payments. But given the purpose of this is seemingly to throw mud, rather than make any meaningful point, who knows.
 
ZanteWeatherman said:
There would be one problem with this scenario.
If it were to be proven that we were using "friends in high places" to have effectively threatened to withdraw investment in the UK as a tool in these "charges", the press and resultant fall-out would be astronomical.......... and ad infinitum. A political shit-storm in the making and the ruination of our club. Khaldoun is not stupid.
Therefore, never going to happen.
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How will it be proven ? Do you really think the government instructing the Premier league to drop all charges for the good of the nation will be leaked to the press, absolutely no chance , this will go away quietly , the Premier league will back down on a technicality or lack of evidence or whatever reason they choose to save face, HM Government will certainly not be letting the media get wind of any decision or interference.
This is definitely going to happen , the UK cannot afford to upset the UAE Royal family by calling them liars ,cheats and frauds , there is a bigger picture and its far bigger than the game of football.
 
Dodge said:
The exact opposite, the charges girded our collective loins. Owners, board, senior management, playing staff, coaching staff, supporters, dinner ladies.

We don't win the treble without these charges being brought. We don't win three in a row. We don't see record revenues, and we possibly don't see the NS extension. We wouldn't see The Etihad becoming the feared fortress it has become. We might not have signed the world superstar who leads our line.

SPECTACULAR own goal by the red shirt history bastards.

Bring on some more I say, make it a nice round 200 charges. That should see us take the 4 in a row, back to back trebles and sign-off on the East & West stand expansions.

In fact, fuck it...make it 400 charges, lets have a 10 year party.
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It’s also keeping Pep wanting to be here for the moment his friends are acquitted completely.

Can we make it a 20 year party?
 
remember arthur mann said:
It's pretty obvious there's a relentless attack on City. This makes our success over the past years an admirable achievement. The arseholes probably have a weekly anti City committee, working out what dastardly thing they can do next.
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Absolutely , we have been attacked for over a decade our accounts forensically examined by all and sundry , i am just waiting for the Premier league to start investigating other clubs , it was well known the the Dippers produced an invoice for £50m for research in to building a new stadium on Stanley Park a few years ago to beat FFP , so where is the Premier league investigation for this or when their coaching staff hacked our computers again no action from the Premier league
Quite sure if the Premier league spent a similar amount of time and energy on the other 19 clubs in the league they would find something dodgy at every club , we appear to be a special case and we know why , the red 'istree clubs are hurting and are now becoming depserate to get back to the summit , the only way they can do this is off the pitch , because on the field play they are all a million miles away from us.
 
Can't stop laughing at the spectacular own goal from the Premier League, the longer it drags on the more they look complete and utter fools.
The red mardarse cunts are running out of options to chop us down.

The bile and piss boiling on social media about the possibility of us getting off is an absolute joy to read, some of the comments/posts/tweets must be written by 12 year old, proper childish immature reactions that make no sense whatsoever.

More I say more.
 
bluemanchester said:
I think if the club don't want to comment on this article or others they should redirect the press questions to;
Media Duscussion
Bluemoon forum
T'internet.
But bar them from the match day thread as that would give the impression Bluemoon is frequented by one or two fruit cakes ;-)
PS. But maybe some journalists would fit right in there.
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FFS fruitcakes.
 
meltonblue said:
And I do get that and ultimately football is a dirty game behind the scenes nowadays. I don’t think there ever should be leverage, be it in the game or political though. I’ve spent years arguing that about our rivals, it’d be hypocritical of me to change that view now!
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Maybe I’m missing something MB, but I saw it as Uk government talking to their own embassy.

I’m not saying there aren’t any other interested parties, but you can hardly just assume the missing details. That’s no better than the accusations against us already, that drive us mad with, well…. Missing details all being assumed.
 
mancity2012_eamo said:
Maybe I’m missing something MB, but I saw it as Uk government talking to their own embassy.

I’m not saying there aren’t any other interested parties, but you can hardly just assume the missing details. That’s no better than the accusations against us already, that drive us mad with, well…. Missing details all being assumed.
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Yeah I agree, that comment wasn’t talking about this directly as as you say we don’t know what was said, it was to Ric taking about the inevitability of it being discussed diplomatically at some point.
 
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