Hammas have less care for the poor innocent lives that will be lost than the Isrealis do . I'd have thought those who quite rightly are appalled at the actions Isreal will take , give Hammas a free ride just because it doesnt suit their agenda
When Russia does, we're happy to sanction them and exclude them from the international community. There's a double standard for Israel. In my mind - this is the first step towards peace. We can't keep on appeasing a bully. I blame Israel, but to be honest, I blame the US too who have helped create this mess (at least in post-modern times).No they shouldnt be using it.
- I'm just asking why the big who-ha about Isreal using some and the complete silence from the human rights brigade about Russia using truck loads of the stuff mostly every day for a huge proportion of the 597 days of the war so far?
Israel has one of the most sophisticated intelligence networks in the world.
There are ways of finding out.
Some killers will slip through the net, of course. But once they leave they won't be able to come back and their usefulness to jihad will be minimal.
Identified butchers don't need to be given safe passage.
A lot of evidence was shared at the time showing that Labour central office threw a general election. We might have had years of Corbyn’s in Government or the Tories might have still won.Do you want to expand upon your argument that ‘Rishi owes Israel’?
And in fact how Corbyn’s failure to act on Anti-semitism contributed to the decision for the UK to make a token offer of logistical assistance to Israel?
Or detail the Jewish lobbyists you mention, and what they have to do with Israel?
Hamas is 30-40,000 fighters and maybe 2x that in hangers on in a population of 2.4million.
They are such a tiny minority that if you offered the people of Gaza a choice between Hamas and freedom, secure boundaries, hospitals, food, power etc then there’s only one winner and it’s not Hamas, they’d be a tiny minority overnight and all but gone in a few years.
You have to offer people an alternative if you want them to abandon someone - after all that’s how Israel got rid of the PLO.
Remember the median age in Gaza is 18. The last election in Gaza was 17 years ago.
Your able to be vociferous in your condemnation of both.. if it existedNo one’s giving Hamas a free ride.
We just think killing thousands of innocent civilians, half of which are children, is a completely inhumane and ineffective way of seeking revenge for a thousand innocent civilians being killed on the other side of the border.
There’s three sides in this conflict. Netanyahus government, Hamas, and the civilians.
Being opposed to the Israeli governments actions doesn’t make you a supporter of Hamas no matter how hard you and a few others try to pretend it does.
Your able to be vociferous in your condemnation of both.. if it existed
Puts chemical Ali to shame
I suggest you watch this -Do you want to expand upon your argument that ‘Rishi owes Israel’?
And in fact how Corbyn’s failure to act on Anti-semitism contributed to the decision for the UK to make a token offer of logistical assistance to Israel?
Or detail the Jewish lobbyists you mention, and what they have to do with Israel?
You have slightly more than some in the main its been I think hammas are cunts, rights thata all I have to say about it back to Isreal bashing .And I have, as has pretty much everyone in the thread.
You have slightly more than some in the main its been I think hammas are cunts, rights thata all I have to say about it back to Isreal bashing .
I dont want the loss of innocent Palestian lives as much as the next person , but when Hammas did this, they knew the response. You knew the response we all knew the response.
And then to tell those civilians don't more its all propaganda stay around and be our shield, knowing what the inevitable is shows that they don't give a flying fuck
I suggest you watch this -
I think of the post match chaos at the Etihad !It took 50,000 united fans about 5 minutes to evacuate Wembley in 2011. Perhaps we should get them to train the Palestinians.
(PS I know I'm seemingly making light of an unspeakably tragic situation but there's always an opportunity to take the piss out of united.)
And sadly the majority of Israeli's and Palestinians suffer because of the small number of sick depraved savages, just stop bloody killing people!!!!.I believe Palestine should be free from Israeli oppression. I think what Israel are doing the Palestian people now is awful. However I will never excuse the actions of Hamas.
Rightly or wrongly Israel and Palestine need a two state solution. It’s the only way for peace.
The problem is there are a minority of Palestinians who want to wipe Israel off the map and a minority of Israelis who want to take more Palestinian land. They are ruining everyone elses lives.
30,000 people is a minority? Imagine if 30,000 armed people, that is half the Etihad Stadium were running around Manchester. Do you reckon the Manchester population would rise up against them? Would they balls. At this point resistance against Hamas would certainly be met with death that's for sure.Hamas is 30-40,000 fighters and maybe 2x that in hangers on in a population of 2.4million.
They are such a tiny minority that if you offered the people of Gaza a choice between Hamas and freedom, secure boundaries, hospitals, food, power etc then there’s only one winner and it’s not Hamas, they’d be a tiny minority overnight and all but gone in a few years.
You have to offer people an alternative if you want them to abandon someone - after all that’s how Israel got rid of the PLO.
Remember the median age in Gaza is 18. The last election in Gaza was 17 years ago.
That’s a very simplistic reading of the situation, ignoring the violence that has been going on in the West Bank, it’s not whataboutry to consider the terrible behaviour of one side or anotherI'm tired of whataboutery that's been rampant on all social media. People can't take a terrorist attack at face value, it's always "Israel deserved it, because xxxxxxxxx."
Last week Israel was minding its own business until Hamarse attacked it. Same as last year with the thousands of rocket attacks. Palestine is literally punching a big boy when his back is turned and then when the big boy turns around to wallop him, saying: "Peace, peace!" and shielding his face.