Next Manager after Pep

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richards30 said:
i can genuinely see Pep doing another 5 years if the club back him with the next generation of world star like Wirtz etc.
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I think the decisions around that won't be based on city and football.
His wife lives in Spain. Do they want to spend more years apart? Maybe they like it that way but we have no idea.
Then there is the weather of course.
And does he enjoy living in an apartment or would he prefer to be in a mansion in the Spanish countryside?
 
KingGeorge said:
The guy toiled in small time leagues for years. I think there is probably a reason why he there. Elite coaches tend to ascend to top jobs before the age of 58. Maybe he is a late bloomer, but he has not had the career trajectory of an elite manager.
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Yet he is currently top of the league.

Pellegrini took over at RM at 56yo then won the P in 2014 at the age of 59, then a LC at 60yo.

So I'd say you're chatting shit tbh.
 
bluealf said:
Yet he is currently top of the league.

Pellegrini took over at RM at 56yo then won the P in 2014 at the age of 59, then a LC at 60yo.

So I'd say you're chatting shit tbh.
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I didn’t realize trophies are given out for being at the Top of the league in November. I thank you for teaching me something new.

We will see where he is moving forward. Ten Hag went from winning a trophy to close to being fired in a span of a year and a half. Ange has a lot to prove.
 
KingGeorge said:
I didn’t realize trophies are given out for being at the Top of the league in November. I thank you for teaching me something new.

We will see where he is moving forward. Ten Hag went from winning a trophy to close to being fired in a span of a year and a half. Ange has a lot to prove.
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They aren't, though I also never suggested they did, it was in reply to your elite coaches don't get to 58 without getting to the top

I notice you don't bother with the perfect example I gave you, probably says it all really.

Bringing in the rags as an example lol

Fuck off, George.
 
bluealf said:
They aren't, though I also never suggested they did, it was in reply to your elite coaches don't get to 58 without getting to the top

I notice you don't bother with the perfect example I gave you, probably says it all really.

Bringing in the rags as an example lol

Fuck off, George.
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I don’t consider Pellegrini to be an elite coach, so I don’t think you refuted my argument. I was talking about the career trajectory of “elite” coaches like Pep and Ancelotti.

We could debate what constitutes an elite coach, but I’m not interested in personality conflict.
 
KingGeorge said:
I don’t consider Pellegrini to be an elite coach, so I don’t think you refuted my argument. I was talking about the career trajectory of “elite” coaches like Pep and Ancelotti.

We could debate what constitutes an elite coach, but I’m not interested in personality conflict.
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You didn't debate my original reply in the slightest or the one below but there you go.

ws01 said:
The reason he was there is that he's an Aussie who came from Australia, a football backwater, and was subjected to a totally different playing field than others who came through Europe/South America either as a player or manager. His ability has nothing to do with it.
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Discuss away.
 
KingGeorge said:
The guy toiled in small time leagues for years. I think there is probably a reason why he there. Elite coaches tend to ascend to top jobs before the age of 58. Maybe he is a late bloomer, but he has not had the career trajectory of an elite manager.
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Disagree. More about being from Australia rather than Europe and access to opportunities. Look into his resume. He has been successful everywhere. Also look at the so called top tier managers who he has followed at Tottenham who all failed. Ange has been elite for years. He may just have come on your radar though.

Not sure Spurs will stay where they are but everyone expected them to drop from where they were last year.He had turned that club culture around in 5 minutes without Kane.
 
ozcityfan said:
Disagree. More about being from Australia rather than Europe and access to opportunities. Look into his resume. He has been successful everywhere. Also look at the so called top tier managers who he has followed at Tottenham who all failed. Ange has been elite for years. He may just have come on your radar though.

Not sure Spurs will stay where they are but everyone expected them to drop from where they were last year.He had turned that club culture around in 5 minutes without Kane.
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The argument being advanced that his career trajectory is different from the typical elite manager because he came from Australia I think is fair. I do think people could be right that he got overlooked because of it.

The argument that he has won everywhere he has been doesn’t make a lot of sense in my view.
Lots of guys can win in small time leagues and when they get the call up to the Premier League they face plant. Ten Hag is just the latest example. Ange has to demonstrate is different from those guys by putting together multiple top four seasons and ideally winning a minor trophy. In essence stringing together some success. If he could accomplish something like that he might be City material.
 
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KingGeorge said:
Ange is older than Pep. He will probably be out of coaching before Pep hangs it up.

Kinda amazing a guy puts together 3 good months at Tottenham and now some view him as a Pep successor

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Spot on.

Was anyone suggesting Stevie G when he had a half decent start at Villa after success in Glasgow ?
 
In all seriousness, I'd still want Luis Enriqué. He's shown he can take the basis of a Pep team and keep the same levels going and win European trophies. Losing Neymar fucked him but I liked the way he had Spain playing even if they didn't make the final stages of tournaments under him.
 
As long as the players keep performing for pep he will stay imo. He isn’t daft he will know this is the best job he could ever possibly have. The board love him, the fans adore him and the players idolise him.
 
He's going nowhere, why would he?

And the thing that he will love is the competition is mounting, Newcastle, Dippers and The Arse chasing hard, a competitive man like Pep will relish that.
 
bluemystery said:
I still rate Potter very much personally. With the right structure behind him (which he didn’t get at Chelsea) he can go very far
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Sadly I thought he looked totally out of his depth which did surprise me, hardly the idea time to take over but he still looked overawed by the whole situation.
 
Keeper! said:
He's going nowhere, why would he?

And the thing that he will love is the competition is mounting, Newcastle, Dippers and The Arse chasing hard, a competitive man like Pep will relish that.
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Yeah, he's arguably the best ever, but like DeBruyne,Haaland,Aguero,Silvas,Kompany,Toure,Rodri,Fernandhino,Stones etc etc made a shocking career move in
choosing a 'small" club to join, he and they must gave massive regrets.
 
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