The Title Race - 2023/24

How many points will be needed to win the league?

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Coatigan said:
I watched us against arsenal a few weeks ago, and We were average at best. In that game.

I love jow quickly people forget the concept of 38 games. One draw against luton, and we can rule liverpool who are only 3 points behind us out. A suspension to a spurs player and they are out too.

We are in a great position, great shape, good form, and have real quality. Still have it all to do though, I find it belittles the work the club put in, sometimes.
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Yep way to early am relax till last 6/8 games of the season when the season starts so we get into position now..
 
Coatigan said:
I watched us against arsenal a few weeks ago, and We were average at best. In that game.

I love jow quickly people forget the concept of 38 games. One draw against luton, and we can rule liverpool who are only 3 points behind us out. A suspension to a spurs player and they are out too.

We are in a great position, great shape, good form, and have real quality. Still have it all to do though, I find it belittles the work the club put in, sometimes.
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It's a good point. We've been spoilt by what Pep and the squad have achieved and because we tend to kick on in the second half of a season we're assuming we will again and the fact we're top already is ominous for our rivals. But it might not work out that way. Rodri's suspension showed how vulnerable we can be.

The media also have a field day with creating drama and sometimes it's easy to get swept up in it.

Over the past 5 games results have been:

City - Won 3 Lost 2 Conclusion - coasting to the title
Dippers - Won 2 D2 L2 Conclusion - our biggest rivals
Arsenal - Won 3 D1 L1 Conclusion - nowhere near as good as last season
Rags - W3 L2 - Conclusion - crisis
Brighton - D3 L2 Conclusion - De Zerbi is doing an amazing job
 
From what I have seen, we are the favourites again albeit with a long long way to go. Our main and serious risk is injury to Rodri. Pep still needs to find a solution to that.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
From what I have seen, we are the favourites again albeit with a long long way to go. Our main and serious risk is injury to Rodri. Pep still needs to find a solution to that.
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Yeh if he was missing for any length of time we'd be fucked. I wonder if the club are planning on moving for someone in January , with Phillips seemingly leaving it fills up a spot.
 
Coatigan said:
I watched us against arsenal a few weeks ago, and We were average at best. In that game.

I love jow quickly people forget the concept of 38 games. One draw against luton, and we can rule liverpool who are only 3 points behind us out. A suspension to a spurs player and they are out too.

We are in a great position, great shape, good form, and have real quality. Still have it all to do though, I find it belittles the work the club put in, sometimes.
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I guess you missed the part where i said if we turn up!! Or talk about multiple games. Belittling City, wtf…

Spuds have also potentially lost 4 starters from last night alone, its not “a suspension” as you think in anyway.

Bizarre post!!
 
Saddleworth2 said:
From what I have seen, we are the favourites again albeit with a long long way to go. Our main and serious risk is injury to Rodri. Pep still needs to find a solution to that.
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I was just going to say the same. It's the only thing that can stop us winning it again imo.
 
Bluearmy said:
I guess you missed the part where i said if we turn up!! Or talk about multiple games. Belittling City, wtf…

Spuds have also potentially lost 4 starters from last night alone, its not “a suspension” as you think in anyway.

Bizarre post!!
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Yes, I 100% think that claims (by anyone) that effectively rule other teams out of the title race, based on one game at week 11, belittle the work the club do the entire season.

Whether you meant that or not, and I'm sure you didn't, I'm not fussed. You (and a few others) implied it, and I will always react to that. Find it bizarre all you want.

It is week 11. Liverpool are not out of the race because they were shite against luton. Spurs are not out of it because they got 2 players red carded in their first loss of the season. Arsenal are not out of it because Arteta lost his shit and went full Klopp. In the same way we were not out of the race because we lost back to back games a couple weeks earlier.

If we go on to win it, which I do believe we will, it will be because we were the best team all year, not because others shat the bed at week 11.

All that said, my response to you was more to a sequence of posts that yours was maybe the last in. I fully get why it might have annoyed you given I tagged it onto your post specifically, and for that I do hold my hands up.
 
Saddleworth2 said:
From what I have seen, we are the favourites again albeit with a long long way to go. Our main and serious risk is injury to Rodri. Pep still needs to find a solution to that.
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He does, but a solution is probably easier with Stones available. Unfortunate Rodri got suspended when Stones was still out.
 
Bluearmy said:
Massive few weeks ahead!! I know Chelsea won tonight and i might live to regret this but not sure they’ll beat us if we turn up. Spuds have also been decimated tonight with suspensions and injuries. Watched Liverpool yesterday and they were average at best. 7 points out of 9 and it will be very difficult for the rest,
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4-1 flattered them mate, it was still anyone’s game at 1-1, that second red killed Spurs, I’m not worried about Chelsea, like you said, Spurs squad took a hit tonight and it was a paper thin squad anyway, Liverpool is the one but they can be absolutely bobbins at the back, I’d agree with 7 out of that potential 9, I’d even be happy with 6
 
Bluearmy said:
Massive few weeks ahead!! I know Chelsea won tonight and i might live to regret this but not sure they’ll beat us if we turn up. Spuds have also been decimated tonight with suspensions and injuries. Watched Liverpool yesterday and they were average at best. 7 points out of 9 and it will be very difficult for the rest,
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No one beats us if we turn up. The only side that could beat us on their own terms in recent years was that first great Klopp Liverpool side.
 
P-Nic85 said:
4-1 flattered them mate, it was still anyone’s game at 1-1, that second red killed Spurs, I’m not worried about Chelsea, like you said, Spurs squad took a hit tonight and it was a paper thin squad anyway, Liverpool is the one but they can be absolutely bobbins at the back, I’d agree with 7 out of that potential 9, I’d even be happy with 6
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No way, that means we'd have to lose 1 (and give another side 3 points).

With the quality in our squad we should be taking 7 minimum. I personally would be disappointed if we didn't take the maximum 9. We've got the easiest side away, and Liverpool/Spurs at home.
 
Pep's not lost at home to Liverpool in the league in his 7 previous seasons, 4 wins 3 draws , and we've put some serious goals past them in those 7 games too (19 to 6!)
 
Brightwell Bros. said:
No one beats us if we turn up. The only side that could beat us on their own terms in recent years was that first great Klopp Liverpool side.
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His only “great” side was merely really good.

Winning back to back titles and two trebles is the marker of a great team. Beating Spursy Spurs to win the CL and winning the league once when City have a year off puts them above say Leicester but below Wenger’s best Arsenal team.
 
Axel Freed said:
His only “great” side was merely really good.

Winning back to back titles and two trebles is the marker of a great team. Beating Spursy Spurs to win the CL and winning the league once when City have a year off puts them above say Leicester but below Wenger’s best Arsenal team.
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Went very close to us on a few occasions, The Crystanbul year and particularly the Aston Villa Gundogan season.
We went on some brilliant runs and they were still very close to us at the end.
We didn't slip up when other teams would have.
They have ben in 2 champions league finals recently and, but for us, would have won a few Premier titles.
They have been our only consistent opposition and I think they will be this season again.
 
Xhavenjoe said:
Went very close to us on a few occasions, The Crystanbul year and particularly the Aston Villa Gundogan season.
We went on some brilliant runs and they were still very close to us at the end.
We didn't slip up when other teams would have.
They have ben in 2 champions league finals recently and, but for us, would have won a few Premier titles.
They have been our only consistent opposition and I think they will be this season again.
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Yep can’t argue with any of that - like I said they were a really good team but we were / are a great one.

Not sure about them this season, I don’t buy into all this hype that their midfield is suddenly super strong. Hendo and Fabinho were good midfielders who knew their way around the pitch and were totally au fait with what Klopp wanted, losing them both weakens their midfield.

Salah’s a year older and maybe casting his eyes to Saudi riches, Nunez is willing but he’s 2nd rate, their defence is iffy, they’ll greatly miss Andy Rob and perhaps most crucially of all we destroyed them mentally with the comeback against Villa to win the title. I think their whole club now from top to bottom has an inferiority complex when it comes to City
 
Axel Freed said:
His only “great” side was merely really good.

Winning back to back titles and two trebles is the marker of a great team. Beating Spursy Spurs to win the CL and winning the league once when City have a year off puts them above say Leicester but below Wenger’s best Arsenal team.
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I think, to be fair to them (and I rarely am), that Liverpool side was a hell of a lot better than most of the Chelsea, United and Arsenal teams who won the Prem multiple times. To get 99 points in a season is no mean feat.

They are probably a top 5 all time team. It’s just a shame for them that ours was in the top 1 :)
 
I only watch home games, don't watch TV, but reckon our performances against Newcastle, Forest and Brighton were as good as I've seen us in terms of controlling a game.

But I was a bag of nerves in all three of those till the final whistle due to "events".

Anything can happen, which is why everyone watches the Premier League.
 
We have already lost 4 games. We can’t afford to lose more than one now otherwise it would be difficult to retain the title.
 
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