That's not true tho is it.
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Alan Harper's Tash
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When it’s actually been an issue? To whip up the rhetoric to where we are now.So ask yourself why all those governments haven’t stopped it?
It’s fairly simple to process applications more quickly. It would cost a bit to train up more officers, but my best guess is that the owners of the hotels will be linked to some high up politicians and they all get a nice little earner whilst telling everyone else that the country is broken, it’s immigrants fault and the nasty ECHR stops us sinking boats in the channel.
blue b4 the moon
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Never happen or be controllable but I'd freeze their assets apart from living exes and if the economy went tits up whip some money from the frozen stuff.ALL MPs should only be allowed one job , an MP, no appointments on to ANY board, no advisory roles, your an MP and MP only, if you don't like it, resign.
Of course it is. People may vehemently disagree with you but you can certainly post your thoughts on the matter.That's not true tho is it.
Tbh I did think about the other folk on the plane when I said it. In hindsight it’s not worth the effort for such a worthless cnutListen the woman is a bad un no doubt but that's a step too far tbh. Blowing up a plane she's on? Bang out of order pal and you should be ashamed.
Unless you give the pilot a parachute.
blueparrot
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To be fair there have always been refugees and always will be, the only way to stop refugees is to solve problems in countries whose governments / rulers are the problem. As we can’t police the whole worldBecause they’re too fucking bone idle.
They don’t fucking care mate, all societies ills could be solved if they put their heads together but too many solutions require long term planning and they all know they won’t be in power to bare the fruits of their labour so they just kick the can down the road.
When we accept that fact the question changes from how we stop them deal but more how we deal with the refugees hear their case,treat them with dignity and when accepted then help them because you can’t stop people desperate for a safe life for their families.
About 10 years ago I used to hate this country's foreign policy, I still do, but I've changed tack on immigration for the simple fact that it's not about taking in the people who need it. It's a free for all that is so under the microscope of leftist virtue that our own government don't have any room to manuvuare anymore. We need to get back to the people that actually need asylum.
Until they get deleted.Of course it is. People may vehemently disagree with you but you can certainly post your thoughts on the matter.
I get it, it's not a democracy here. But the left is undeniably more favourable
blueparrot
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Are you talking about immigration or refugees seeking asylum.About 10 years ago I used to hate this country's foreign policy, I still do, but I've changed tack on immigration for the simple fact that it's not about taking in the people who need it. It's a free for all that is so under the microscope of leftist virtue that our own government don't have any room to manuvuare anymore. We need to get back to the people that actually need asylum.
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As they aren’t being processed, and those that are are around 77% are granted asylum, how are 77% of these people stuck in hotels not the ones actually needing asylum?About 10 years ago I used to hate this country's foreign policy, I still do, but I've changed tack on immigration for the simple fact that it's not about taking in the people who need it. It's a free for all that is so under the microscope of leftist virtue that our own government don't have any room to manuvuare anymore. We need to get back to the people that actually need asylum.
The big difference is that we left the EU and its Dublin Regulation stopping us having the ability to return the boats to where they came from.
It’s a deliberate act to ignite the rhetoric.
inchy14
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I’ve said this from the outset.When it’s actually been an issue? To whip up the rhetoric to where we are now.
It’s fairly simple to process applications more quickly. It would cost a bit to train up more officers, but my best guess is that the owners of the hotels will be linked to some high up politicians and they all get a nice little earner whilst telling everyone else that the country is broken, it’s immigrants fault and the nasty ECHR stops us sinking boats in the channel.
The money spent on hotels in a week could be used to fund an additional 1000 staff members to see applications through quicker, but that won’t line the pockets of their fucking cronies so they don’t want to do it.
Also same with the barge which is costing an absolute fortune and owned by a Tory donor.
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We already know your opinion so no further need to tell us.So, what are the allowed opinions on the sacking? You can't support her without being a bad person. I need to know what conditioning I need to undergo after last night.
Asylum from a warzone. Immigration needs to curbed. Legal loopholes for legal immigrants need to be tightened. Sensible policiesAre you talking about immigration or refugees seeking asylum.
And what is my opinion?We already know your opinion so no further need to tell us.
inchy14
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He doesn’t know…Are you talking about immigration or refugees seeking asylum.
west didsblue
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You agree with most of what she says.And what is my opinion?
inchy14
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Why does immigration need to be curbed?Asylum from a warzone. Immigration needs to curbed. Legal loopholes for legal immigrants need to be tightened. Sensible policies
Fred_Quimby
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This doesn’t make sense. ‘Legal loopholes for legal immigrants’?? What on earth does that mean? We only allow in certain immigrants that we want to fill specific types of vacancies.Asylum from a warzone. Immigration needs to curbed. Legal loopholes for legal immigrants need to be tightened. Sensible policies
If you are alluding to the boat people then we can’t tell what they are until they are processed which this government do not want to do in a hurry.
blueparrot
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We need more immigration, even the tories undersatnd that much even though they try not to mention it too much. As for asylum, it's simple, process the claim quickly and efficiently the majority will be approved and they can build a life work and contribute,easing the need for some immigration. Those that fail can if possible be removed.Asylum from a warzone. Immigration needs to curbed. Legal loopholes for legal immigrants need to be tightened. Sensible policies
Of course the sensible thing would be to open up legal routes for applicants, the government refuse .why?
There is no left wing agenda, you a very right wing government expoiting the situation for their own ends.
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They have been set up as the enemy. That's why the former Home Secretary uses words like "invasion" and "swarm".How exactly are they used as a political tool?
Does the EU also use them as a political tool given they too have just as big an issue with illegal migrant boats entering into EU countries?